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<blockquote data-quote="lancetkenyon" data-source="post: 1462533" data-attributes="member: 68875"><p>I got out today to fire form my 6.5SS ADG brass.</p><p></p><p>I ran some decent loads of H1000 under both 140 HVLDs and 150 SMKs. Not too hot, but some fairly high loads that I use in my formed Norma loads. 57.0 H1000 & 58.0 H1000. </p><p></p><p>I am extremely happy to say, cases came out sharp, formed well, and not a single sign of pressure. I did not take my chrono with me, but looking at my previous loads with the same charge weights in formed cases, I would guess the 140s were between 3040-3100fps, and the 150s were between 3000-3060fps. </p><p></p><p>Shot at 200 yards, as we were sighting in a buddy's rifle for an upcoming elk hunt, and wanted a 200 yard zero. Plus, helps to show a bit better what the loads are going to do. </p><p></p><p>The far targets out by the back berm are 200 yards.</p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_081526_zpsyio0zwxt.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_081526_zpsyio0zwxt.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>After I got home, started taking measurements. All 20 were within .0005" at the shoulder datum using the .420 Hornady headspace gauge. 1.565" to 1.5655"</p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124551_zpsehy2jjy8.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124551_zpsehy2jjy8.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124529_zpsckyqghld.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124529_zpsckyqghld.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>My Norma brass 5 times fired and shoulder bumped to 1.5635" (.002" headspace)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124603_zpsnesorrzm.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124603_zpsnesorrzm.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124613_zps42rthqgp.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124613_zps42rthqgp.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Another loaded round</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124623_zps0sfdnkus.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124623_zps0sfdnkus.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Fired case neck diameter</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124650_zpsauganxao.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124650_zpsauganxao.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Loaded round (I use a .291" bushing)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124707_zpsokfnctvd.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124707_zpsokfnctvd.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Measured all 20 cases. Lengths after firing were between 1.953" to 1.956".</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124726_zpshmla04jv.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124726_zpshmla04jv.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124831_zpsf4fyxiqm.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124831_zpsf4fyxiqm.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124819_zpsdhlvbjk2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124819_zpsdhlvbjk2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124802_zpsulzrbizo.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124802_zpsulzrbizo.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Not a single swipe or ejector mark that I can see. Primers looked good. A bit of cratering, but that is an R700 bolt for you. No sticky bolt lift either.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124913_zpsv8qkwlk2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124913_zpsv8qkwlk2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Shoulders look good.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125103_zps22fnsess.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125103_zps22fnsess.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125117_zps7xxg365z.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125117_zps7xxg365z.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p> Before</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180707_215042_zpsrrxdhu0o.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180707_215042_zpsrrxdhu0o.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>After</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125150_zpstdukpnbw.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125150_zpstdukpnbw.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Sub-1/2 MOA from fire forming loads? I will take that. Not bad for 200 yards.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_133722_zpsxbwstyzw.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_133722_zpsxbwstyzw.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_142618_zpsumvunw7b.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_142618_zpsumvunw7b.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lancetkenyon, post: 1462533, member: 68875"] I got out today to fire form my 6.5SS ADG brass. I ran some decent loads of H1000 under both 140 HVLDs and 150 SMKs. Not too hot, but some fairly high loads that I use in my formed Norma loads. 57.0 H1000 & 58.0 H1000. I am extremely happy to say, cases came out sharp, formed well, and not a single sign of pressure. I did not take my chrono with me, but looking at my previous loads with the same charge weights in formed cases, I would guess the 140s were between 3040-3100fps, and the 150s were between 3000-3060fps. Shot at 200 yards, as we were sighting in a buddy's rifle for an upcoming elk hunt, and wanted a 200 yard zero. Plus, helps to show a bit better what the loads are going to do. The far targets out by the back berm are 200 yards. [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_081526_zpsyio0zwxt.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_081526_zpsyio0zwxt.jpg[/IMG][/URL] After I got home, started taking measurements. All 20 were within .0005" at the shoulder datum using the .420 Hornady headspace gauge. 1.565" to 1.5655" [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124551_zpsehy2jjy8.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124551_zpsehy2jjy8.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124529_zpsckyqghld.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124529_zpsckyqghld.jpg[/IMG][/URL] My Norma brass 5 times fired and shoulder bumped to 1.5635" (.002" headspace) [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124603_zpsnesorrzm.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124603_zpsnesorrzm.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124613_zps42rthqgp.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124613_zps42rthqgp.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Another loaded round [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124623_zps0sfdnkus.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124623_zps0sfdnkus.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Fired case neck diameter [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124650_zpsauganxao.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124650_zpsauganxao.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Loaded round (I use a .291" bushing) [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124707_zpsokfnctvd.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124707_zpsokfnctvd.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Measured all 20 cases. Lengths after firing were between 1.953" to 1.956". [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124726_zpshmla04jv.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124726_zpshmla04jv.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124831_zpsf4fyxiqm.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124831_zpsf4fyxiqm.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124819_zpsdhlvbjk2.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124819_zpsdhlvbjk2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124802_zpsulzrbizo.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124802_zpsulzrbizo.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Not a single swipe or ejector mark that I can see. Primers looked good. A bit of cratering, but that is an R700 bolt for you. No sticky bolt lift either. [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124913_zpsv8qkwlk2.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_124913_zpsv8qkwlk2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Shoulders look good. [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125103_zps22fnsess.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125103_zps22fnsess.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125117_zps7xxg365z.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125117_zps7xxg365z.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Before [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180707_215042_zpsrrxdhu0o.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180707_215042_zpsrrxdhu0o.jpg[/IMG][/URL] After [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125150_zpstdukpnbw.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_125150_zpstdukpnbw.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Sub-1/2 MOA from fire forming loads? I will take that. Not bad for 200 yards. [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_133722_zpsxbwstyzw.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_133722_zpsxbwstyzw.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='http://s642.photobucket.com/user/lancetkenyon13/media/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_142618_zpsumvunw7b.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu142/lancetkenyon13/6%205%20SS%20Rebuild/20180722_142618_zpsumvunw7b.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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