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<blockquote data-quote="Dave King" data-source="post: 148634" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>Ross</p><p></p><p> I just read the thread you linked here, I see 23 posts, 5 of which are yours, 2 folks say they've attended and were pleased the remaining folks are pretty much just chatting and wishing.</p><p></p><p> I don't see that thread as overwhelming support or approval.</p><p></p><p> I don't personally know Dean but have seen and read many of his posts around the web, he does have a way of drawing some controversy. I will also say that I have not seen any hard evidence that would positively convinced me that he can do what he claims.</p><p></p><p> I've dealt with Lost River Ballistics and tested some of their bullets in a direct test with Warren Jensen. Warren was very decent about the test and generous with his support, the test we conducted were more educational the practical use, a test of polygonal rifling and monolithic bullets.</p><p></p><p> Extreme long range shooting is a little different especially if we're talking about first round hits. If you have the basics of long range shooting <strong>mastered</strong> you can progress to extreme long range without being completely frustrated. It is a stepwise increase in difficulty with a considerable increase in the significance of environmental and other factors (ambient temp, pressure, departure angle, cant, etc).</p><p></p><p>Although I personally don't have any desire to attend long range shooting classes for rifles I have shot to distance just a few yards short of a mile, I would consider this extreme long range. What I view as the draw for a class such as offered is the opportunity to spend some quality time on a rifle with the possibility of a person of equal or superior knowledge present to provide a little guidance. I believe a person could possibly gain as much useful information and experience just spending a few days shooting varmints with a seasoned long range shooter. I guess what I'm headed toward is that a fella needs to get out and shoot, practice (quality practice) with someone a little better and more experienced... doing so with Dean may be an option, I'd personally pick someone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave King, post: 148634, member: 3"] Ross I just read the thread you linked here, I see 23 posts, 5 of which are yours, 2 folks say they've attended and were pleased the remaining folks are pretty much just chatting and wishing. I don't see that thread as overwhelming support or approval. I don't personally know Dean but have seen and read many of his posts around the web, he does have a way of drawing some controversy. I will also say that I have not seen any hard evidence that would positively convinced me that he can do what he claims. I've dealt with Lost River Ballistics and tested some of their bullets in a direct test with Warren Jensen. Warren was very decent about the test and generous with his support, the test we conducted were more educational the practical use, a test of polygonal rifling and monolithic bullets. Extreme long range shooting is a little different especially if we're talking about first round hits. If you have the basics of long range shooting [b]mastered[/b] you can progress to extreme long range without being completely frustrated. It is a stepwise increase in difficulty with a considerable increase in the significance of environmental and other factors (ambient temp, pressure, departure angle, cant, etc). Although I personally don't have any desire to attend long range shooting classes for rifles I have shot to distance just a few yards short of a mile, I would consider this extreme long range. What I view as the draw for a class such as offered is the opportunity to spend some quality time on a rifle with the possibility of a person of equal or superior knowledge present to provide a little guidance. I believe a person could possibly gain as much useful information and experience just spending a few days shooting varmints with a seasoned long range shooter. I guess what I'm headed toward is that a fella needs to get out and shoot, practice (quality practice) with someone a little better and more experienced... doing so with Dean may be an option, I'd personally pick someone else. [/QUOTE]
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