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exploding bullets on impact...is this real or are people guessing?
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<blockquote data-quote="del2les" data-source="post: 1754237" data-attributes="member: 9299"><p>It happens. I have had it occur twice in 50 or so years, and I have seen the after effects on a couple of others shot by family and friends.</p><p></p><p>Back in the 90's, I hit a Southern Whitetail at 220yds with a 100gr NBT from my 25-06 with a muzzle vel of 3,400+. The deer was quartering away and standing in tall broom straw grass, so when I tried to place the bullet behind the shoulder to exit toward the opposing shoulder, either I flubbed the shot or the tall grass deflected it into the right shoulder with a resounding dull crack of bone strike.</p><p></p><p>The deer went down, but I could see he was just lying there, head up and wondering- "What just happened". I walked down to the area he laid and put another round into his neck.</p><p></p><p>Upon dressing, the shoulder was mush, bone splinters and small lead and copper fragments all around, but ZERO penetration into the chest cavity. Not a single spot in the ribs could be found were anything went into the chest.</p><p></p><p>Many years prior, another deer was shot dead into the shoulder with a 30-06 using some bulk lot of old 150gr Silver Tips I had purchased for a song, and while they had killed several deer at woods ranges, that one hit just right to cause massive tissue and bone damage. BUT, the 8 pointer ran off and required some tracking to find him lying by a log and slow to get back up. Another shot was required.</p><p>.</p><p>Not deer but an elk. I witnessed a friend hit a bull elk with a 190ABLR form a 300RUM at just under 100yds, and due to his only shot placement on the shoulder, that bullet at that vel fragmented with no penetration into the vitals.</p><p></p><p>There are numerous reports of people using varmint style bullets on deer with spectacular DRT results, but if those high-vel bullets find a bone at certain angles, they may fragment and fail spectacularly also.</p><p></p><p>There are many factors that create this phenom with often reliable hunting bullets, but basically, a high vel lead/thin copper projectile impacting at a high enough vel on enough resistance will result in the projectile violently fragmenting in a short distance. This is how varmint bullets are designed, so think of that when these hunting bullets fail.</p><p></p><p>This is why there have been so many attempts to manufacture reliable expanding bullets that will also penetrate deeply and reach the vitals in all types of hunting angles: Partition, Barnes, Scirocco II, TBBC, Fushion, AB's, etc, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="del2les, post: 1754237, member: 9299"] It happens. I have had it occur twice in 50 or so years, and I have seen the after effects on a couple of others shot by family and friends. Back in the 90's, I hit a Southern Whitetail at 220yds with a 100gr NBT from my 25-06 with a muzzle vel of 3,400+. The deer was quartering away and standing in tall broom straw grass, so when I tried to place the bullet behind the shoulder to exit toward the opposing shoulder, either I flubbed the shot or the tall grass deflected it into the right shoulder with a resounding dull crack of bone strike. The deer went down, but I could see he was just lying there, head up and wondering- "What just happened". I walked down to the area he laid and put another round into his neck. Upon dressing, the shoulder was mush, bone splinters and small lead and copper fragments all around, but ZERO penetration into the chest cavity. Not a single spot in the ribs could be found were anything went into the chest. Many years prior, another deer was shot dead into the shoulder with a 30-06 using some bulk lot of old 150gr Silver Tips I had purchased for a song, and while they had killed several deer at woods ranges, that one hit just right to cause massive tissue and bone damage. BUT, the 8 pointer ran off and required some tracking to find him lying by a log and slow to get back up. Another shot was required. . Not deer but an elk. I witnessed a friend hit a bull elk with a 190ABLR form a 300RUM at just under 100yds, and due to his only shot placement on the shoulder, that bullet at that vel fragmented with no penetration into the vitals. There are numerous reports of people using varmint style bullets on deer with spectacular DRT results, but if those high-vel bullets find a bone at certain angles, they may fragment and fail spectacularly also. There are many factors that create this phenom with often reliable hunting bullets, but basically, a high vel lead/thin copper projectile impacting at a high enough vel on enough resistance will result in the projectile violently fragmenting in a short distance. This is how varmint bullets are designed, so think of that when these hunting bullets fail. This is why there have been so many attempts to manufacture reliable expanding bullets that will also penetrate deeply and reach the vitals in all types of hunting angles: Partition, Barnes, Scirocco II, TBBC, Fushion, AB's, etc, etc. [/QUOTE]
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