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exploding bullets on impact...is this real or are people guessing?
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<blockquote data-quote="bearcat2" data-source="post: 1753882" data-attributes="member: 18832"><p>I've seen them grenade on deer but the only instance where I can say it didn't kill was a mule deer I killed that had a festering wound in its shoulder/neck from a bullet that I found fragments of. Obvouisly I don't know what kind of bullet/range/caliber was involved, but the bullet obviously fragmented and didn't penetrate to kill it.</p><p>Elk on the other hand I have seen numerous instances of. I saw one where a hunter shot an elk FIVE times with a 300 mag shooting ballistic tips (my memory isn't positive of the particular bullet so I won't malign the one I think it was). Old guy in very poor physical condition who shot it just before dark and wasn't positive he saw it go down and not knowing the area went out for help instead of going over to look for the animal. Me and a couple other guys got there at 11:00 that night. He had managed to break both front shoulders, a hind leg, and punch through the guts (how he didn't see it down is beyond me). Approximately 5 1/2 hours after he shot it, it was still alive, although obviously not going anywhere with three broken legs. Although the lungs were bruised like you had hit them with birdshot, out of three bullets into the front shoulders nothing had penetrated to the vitals enough to actually kill it. The gut shot obviously would have, but it wasn't moving much with all its wheels gone and although it was a green mess inside it hadn't really bled much from it.</p><p>I've also in the last two years seen two lions shot with ballistic tip varmint bullets (one 223 and 22-250) that blew up on the brisket with a frontal chest shot at close range (treed with hounds) both lions had to tracked down and killed, they were not going to die any time soon from their wounds. A 22lr or 22 magnum in a solid or even hollow points would have killed both of those in seconds if placed in the same spot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bearcat2, post: 1753882, member: 18832"] I've seen them grenade on deer but the only instance where I can say it didn't kill was a mule deer I killed that had a festering wound in its shoulder/neck from a bullet that I found fragments of. Obvouisly I don't know what kind of bullet/range/caliber was involved, but the bullet obviously fragmented and didn't penetrate to kill it. Elk on the other hand I have seen numerous instances of. I saw one where a hunter shot an elk FIVE times with a 300 mag shooting ballistic tips (my memory isn't positive of the particular bullet so I won't malign the one I think it was). Old guy in very poor physical condition who shot it just before dark and wasn't positive he saw it go down and not knowing the area went out for help instead of going over to look for the animal. Me and a couple other guys got there at 11:00 that night. He had managed to break both front shoulders, a hind leg, and punch through the guts (how he didn't see it down is beyond me). Approximately 5 1/2 hours after he shot it, it was still alive, although obviously not going anywhere with three broken legs. Although the lungs were bruised like you had hit them with birdshot, out of three bullets into the front shoulders nothing had penetrated to the vitals enough to actually kill it. The gut shot obviously would have, but it wasn't moving much with all its wheels gone and although it was a green mess inside it hadn't really bled much from it. I've also in the last two years seen two lions shot with ballistic tip varmint bullets (one 223 and 22-250) that blew up on the brisket with a frontal chest shot at close range (treed with hounds) both lions had to tracked down and killed, they were not going to die any time soon from their wounds. A 22lr or 22 magnum in a solid or even hollow points would have killed both of those in seconds if placed in the same spot. [/QUOTE]
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