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<blockquote data-quote="HARPERC" data-source="post: 1521162" data-attributes="member: 30671"><p>1) A government committed to secularism, unable to balance even it's check book, will never balance anything.</p><p>2) God's balance happens over millennia, swamp gets buried under a couple of hundred feet of ice, and back again.</p><p>3) The "balance" or stated goals of the wolf debacle was set in the beginning as a number that would have been manageable, sustainable.</p><p>4) The Audubon Society actually joined in the law suit to stop the transplant, as it was bad science, and there were wolves very close to the population goals set in the beginning. Wyoming, and Montana ranchers joined by the Audubon folks doesn't happen every day.</p><p>5) Wolf management unfortunately looks just like eradication, differing only in the end point.</p><p>6) A recent release by BC indicates an increase in endangered caribou numbers, following spending about a million a year on "wolf management"since 2015. If I recall the quota on female lions was dropped at the same time.</p><p></p><p>There is a reason they don't transport problem bears, and wolves to California. There's a reason the Seattle yuppie backpackers fought transplanting grizzlies in the Cascades. These things are cool when they kill someone else's wife and kids, livestock and pets. </p><p></p><p>An area in Wyoming was closed this week as there were grizzlies feeding in the area. If you're late to the party it's not about balance, it's about forcing people off of "public land". The Endangered Species Act is the modern equivalent of decimating the bison to force the natives onto reservations. It's about a few people wanting to play God without the requisite wisdom, or long term view.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HARPERC, post: 1521162, member: 30671"] 1) A government committed to secularism, unable to balance even it's check book, will never balance anything. 2) God's balance happens over millennia, swamp gets buried under a couple of hundred feet of ice, and back again. 3) The "balance" or stated goals of the wolf debacle was set in the beginning as a number that would have been manageable, sustainable. 4) The Audubon Society actually joined in the law suit to stop the transplant, as it was bad science, and there were wolves very close to the population goals set in the beginning. Wyoming, and Montana ranchers joined by the Audubon folks doesn't happen every day. 5) Wolf management unfortunately looks just like eradication, differing only in the end point. 6) A recent release by BC indicates an increase in endangered caribou numbers, following spending about a million a year on "wolf management"since 2015. If I recall the quota on female lions was dropped at the same time. There is a reason they don't transport problem bears, and wolves to California. There's a reason the Seattle yuppie backpackers fought transplanting grizzlies in the Cascades. These things are cool when they kill someone else's wife and kids, livestock and pets. An area in Wyoming was closed this week as there were grizzlies feeding in the area. If you're late to the party it's not about balance, it's about forcing people off of "public land". The Endangered Species Act is the modern equivalent of decimating the bison to force the natives onto reservations. It's about a few people wanting to play God without the requisite wisdom, or long term view. [/QUOTE]
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