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Energy or bullet diameter most important?
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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1236011" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>So you dislike discussions on bullet-damaged meat if those discussion spiral back around to "bergers ruin meat". Do I interpret at least that correctly? Because then I understand the initiating cause for your Post. </p><p></p><p>If you're trying to dissuade members from identifying the bullet they used when they described that bullet's performance, then mellow out is my response, and one that's completely appropriate. Members attempting to stifle members from expressing their experiences, thoughts, and opinions is a primary reason why the majority of bullet Threads turn south and down the toitie. </p><p></p><p>If your post is a promotion of a position that all bullets damage meat equally, so the only thing to be done is to not shoot them into meat, then many disagree. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to realistically state: "<u>Exactly. Those discussions <strong>always</strong> spiral back around to "bergers ruin meat."</u> There wouldn't be any member experiences creating discussions comparing relative meat-rate losses experienced with different bullet designs if members didn't observe differences in meat loss rates. </p><p></p><p>I've never seen a bullet come unglued leaving such a gaping cavity in the brisket of an animal over such a shallow depth of penetration, as I observed with a 210gr bullet fired out of my 300 Win Mag. Brace yourself... it was a Berger VLD. Who's to benefit in the slightest if I state I had a bullet blow a gaping hole in the brisket of an animal I shot, such that the bullet wound was wider than deep, and no fragment of the bullet exited the 12" wide torso. Sorry, I can't identify the brand and model of the bullet - because ... <strong>it might offend a member</strong>.</p><p></p><p>If you desire respect, then respect the equal right of other members to express their experiences and thoughts on this Forum, on all subjects allowed for discussion. Even if they identify the brand of bullet - even if they chose to blame that bullet. Most aren't PhD's, and lay blame in a simple expression where they see fit. The statement "Of course the bullet damaged meat - you shot it into the meat - don't blame the bullet" is now even more readily perceived as an effort to stifle Posts from spiraling into "bergers ruin meat". You can go there if you chose. And others can and will respond. Some to the effect of "mellow out".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1236011, member: 4191"] So you dislike discussions on bullet-damaged meat if those discussion spiral back around to "bergers ruin meat". Do I interpret at least that correctly? Because then I understand the initiating cause for your Post. If you're trying to dissuade members from identifying the bullet they used when they described that bullet's performance, then mellow out is my response, and one that's completely appropriate. Members attempting to stifle members from expressing their experiences, thoughts, and opinions is a primary reason why the majority of bullet Threads turn south and down the toitie. If your post is a promotion of a position that all bullets damage meat equally, so the only thing to be done is to not shoot them into meat, then many disagree. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to realistically state: "[U]Exactly. Those discussions [B]always[/B] spiral back around to "bergers ruin meat."[/U] There wouldn't be any member experiences creating discussions comparing relative meat-rate losses experienced with different bullet designs if members didn't observe differences in meat loss rates. I've never seen a bullet come unglued leaving such a gaping cavity in the brisket of an animal over such a shallow depth of penetration, as I observed with a 210gr bullet fired out of my 300 Win Mag. Brace yourself... it was a Berger VLD. Who's to benefit in the slightest if I state I had a bullet blow a gaping hole in the brisket of an animal I shot, such that the bullet wound was wider than deep, and no fragment of the bullet exited the 12" wide torso. Sorry, I can't identify the brand and model of the bullet - because ... [B]it might offend a member[/B]. If you desire respect, then respect the equal right of other members to express their experiences and thoughts on this Forum, on all subjects allowed for discussion. Even if they identify the brand of bullet - even if they chose to blame that bullet. Most aren't PhD's, and lay blame in a simple expression where they see fit. The statement "Of course the bullet damaged meat - you shot it into the meat - don't blame the bullet" is now even more readily perceived as an effort to stifle Posts from spiraling into "bergers ruin meat". You can go there if you chose. And others can and will respond. Some to the effect of "mellow out". [/QUOTE]
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