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Energy or bullet diameter most important?
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<blockquote data-quote="HammerB1" data-source="post: 1235566" data-attributes="member: 8224"><p>I have kept my mouth shut on this whole thread. I understand both sides (frangible/not frangible) bullets. I have seen a lot of animals killed with a lot of bullets. I have also butchered a lot of the animals, meaning actually gutting, skinning, and actually butchering (cutting and rapping) the final product. NEVER liked to cut and wrap an animal killed with a frangible bullet. Spent more time cleaning blood shot from the meat than making good clean cuts.</p><p>I will NEVER shoot a frangible bullet again with my experience on both terminal performance and the loss of eatable meat. I have seen more than one whitetail deer shot in the shoulder with a quality bonded core bullet and it never reached the vitals. One in particular, my uncle shot it at 20 yards, 30-06-180 grain, took off like it had never been hit. I found and killed this buck 2 days later, after gutting and skinning him, the bullet never made it past the big shoulder bone. Fragmenting bullet never penetrated deep enough to get to vitals... Have also seen whitetail killed with fragmenting bullets and found fragments in hind quarter when shot in the shoulder. </p><p>Where I come from, Meat is the reason I hunted. Fed our family of 8 kids. After finding solid bullets, meat loss was way less....this is the big reason I will never shoot a fragmenting bullet again....</p><p>It is a very long read, but the Shooting Holes in the Wounded Theory tells how terminal performance actually works. I read it years ago, took me days but was worth the read. Explains when the bullet enters the animal, what actually happens.and a lot more. </p><p>Everyone needs to read it. I have heard to many stories of how they will use nothing but Bergers, all I can say is, they will eventually Fail... just using them as an example!!! but seems to be the big hype these days. The best performing bonded core bullets I have seen are the Swift Scirrocco's. They will actually retain 70-80% of there weight..</p><p>As far as bullet diameter making any difference, there is no replacement for displacement.</p><p>Brian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HammerB1, post: 1235566, member: 8224"] I have kept my mouth shut on this whole thread. I understand both sides (frangible/not frangible) bullets. I have seen a lot of animals killed with a lot of bullets. I have also butchered a lot of the animals, meaning actually gutting, skinning, and actually butchering (cutting and rapping) the final product. NEVER liked to cut and wrap an animal killed with a frangible bullet. Spent more time cleaning blood shot from the meat than making good clean cuts. I will NEVER shoot a frangible bullet again with my experience on both terminal performance and the loss of eatable meat. I have seen more than one whitetail deer shot in the shoulder with a quality bonded core bullet and it never reached the vitals. One in particular, my uncle shot it at 20 yards, 30-06-180 grain, took off like it had never been hit. I found and killed this buck 2 days later, after gutting and skinning him, the bullet never made it past the big shoulder bone. Fragmenting bullet never penetrated deep enough to get to vitals... Have also seen whitetail killed with fragmenting bullets and found fragments in hind quarter when shot in the shoulder. Where I come from, Meat is the reason I hunted. Fed our family of 8 kids. After finding solid bullets, meat loss was way less....this is the big reason I will never shoot a fragmenting bullet again.... It is a very long read, but the Shooting Holes in the Wounded Theory tells how terminal performance actually works. I read it years ago, took me days but was worth the read. Explains when the bullet enters the animal, what actually happens.and a lot more. Everyone needs to read it. I have heard to many stories of how they will use nothing but Bergers, all I can say is, they will eventually Fail... just using them as an example!!! but seems to be the big hype these days. The best performing bonded core bullets I have seen are the Swift Scirrocco's. They will actually retain 70-80% of there weight.. As far as bullet diameter making any difference, there is no replacement for displacement. Brian [/QUOTE]
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