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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Boozer" data-source="post: 1269534" data-attributes="member: 22146"><p>I'm right there with you Toddc.   I don't mind paying more for a better product, but assuming I can get a good sub-moa load worked up with them I see no downside.   Of all the pros I mentioned earlier I didn't even touch on terminal ballistics and what happens when it hits an animal.   I've only been shooting the Berger load for a year now, so one dead deer and a very dead coyote (at over 600 yards mind you) can attest that they work, but there's been enough stories about bullets not expanding etc. that there has to be some truth behind it.   Thing like that don't just come out of thin air. Their new 180 class 30 cal elite hunter is over $60/100.   No thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>