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<blockquote data-quote="liltank" data-source="post: 310739" data-attributes="member: 13275"><p><a href="http://savagearms.com/12Varminter.htm" target="_blank">Savage Arms Model 12 Varminter Low Profile</a>, This is the best long range rifle in my opinion. I have one and can hit targets at 1100yrds. We have two witnessed shots with this same rifle at that distance. It has a detachable magazine and 26" heavy barrel. This thing shoots lights out for the money and it is not a custom rifle. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://savagearms.com/16fhss.htm" target="_blank">Savage Centerfire Hunting Rifle 16FHSS</a> This will shoot the same, but the stocks are a little cheesy. It will perform quite well now that it comes with the accu-stock and accu-trigger. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://savagearms.com/16fhsak.htm" target="_blank">Savage Centerfire Hunting Rifle 16FCSAK</a>, This rifle provides a muzzle break that you can open to bench and close to hunt with for noise control.</p><p></p><p>These would be my choices but I am bias to the Savage. I own two and love'em!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>As far as cost let me do the following comparison:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Federal Premium Vital-Shok Ammunition 30-06 Springfield 180 Grain Nosler AccuBond Box of 20 $38.99</span></span></strong></p><p>Velocity: 2700fps Energy: 2913 ft. lbs. </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Federal Premium Vital-Shok Ammunition 300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) 180 Grain Nosler AccuBond Box of 20 $48.99 </span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong>Velocity: 2960fps Energy: 3502 ft. lbs.</p><p></p><p>The thing we don't know about the velocity is what barrel length was used along with twist rate. Regardless it still shows that the 300 WSM is going to get your bullet there with higher velocity and hit with more authority.</p><p></p><p>These are Midway prices, so you will find prices very from store to store. There is obviously cheaper ammo as well, this would be my prefered off the shelf if I were to choose one. The accubond is a preferred hunting bullet for heavy game.</p><p></p><p>Recoil is subjective. I think my cousins 19lbs. .338 Lapua is just comfortable to shoot with out a muzzle break. But I do have a muzzle break on my 300WSM so that I can bench it with out fear of recoil. </p><p></p><p>My dad has one of the new Mossberg 4x4 in 30-06. I think it kicked like a mule. I have also shot a Winchester Feather weight in 243 that kicked like mad. I hated shooting that rifle. My model 7 remington in 243 shoots quite nicely. So I guess it is what you are use too. If you can still shoot a 30-06 without a recoil pad, then the 300WSM will be like butter for you. </p><p></p><p>Tank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="liltank, post: 310739, member: 13275"] [URL="http://savagearms.com/12Varminter.htm"]Savage Arms Model 12 Varminter Low Profile[/URL], This is the best long range rifle in my opinion. I have one and can hit targets at 1100yrds. We have two witnessed shots with this same rifle at that distance. It has a detachable magazine and 26" heavy barrel. This thing shoots lights out for the money and it is not a custom rifle. [URL="http://savagearms.com/16fhss.htm"]Savage Centerfire Hunting Rifle 16FHSS[/URL] This will shoot the same, but the stocks are a little cheesy. It will perform quite well now that it comes with the accu-stock and accu-trigger. [URL="http://savagearms.com/16fhsak.htm"]Savage Centerfire Hunting Rifle 16FCSAK[/URL], This rifle provides a muzzle break that you can open to bench and close to hunt with for noise control. These would be my choices but I am bias to the Savage. I own two and love'em!:D As far as cost let me do the following comparison: [B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Federal Premium Vital-Shok Ammunition 30-06 Springfield 180 Grain Nosler AccuBond Box of 20 $38.99[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] Velocity: 2700fps Energy: 2913 ft. lbs. [B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4] Federal Premium Vital-Shok Ammunition 300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) 180 Grain Nosler AccuBond Box of 20 $48.99 [/SIZE][/FONT][/B]Velocity: 2960fps Energy: 3502 ft. lbs. The thing we don't know about the velocity is what barrel length was used along with twist rate. Regardless it still shows that the 300 WSM is going to get your bullet there with higher velocity and hit with more authority. These are Midway prices, so you will find prices very from store to store. There is obviously cheaper ammo as well, this would be my prefered off the shelf if I were to choose one. The accubond is a preferred hunting bullet for heavy game. Recoil is subjective. I think my cousins 19lbs. .338 Lapua is just comfortable to shoot with out a muzzle break. But I do have a muzzle break on my 300WSM so that I can bench it with out fear of recoil. My dad has one of the new Mossberg 4x4 in 30-06. I think it kicked like a mule. I have also shot a Winchester Feather weight in 243 that kicked like mad. I hated shooting that rifle. My model 7 remington in 243 shoots quite nicely. So I guess it is what you are use too. If you can still shoot a 30-06 without a recoil pad, then the 300WSM will be like butter for you. Tank [/QUOTE]
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