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<blockquote data-quote="OCHO505" data-source="post: 2016185" data-attributes="member: 98352"><p>So for the one specific case on the Oryx the guide told me he was using a 220 or 230 Berger not sure which he shot the Oryx at 100 yards 3 or 4 times in the shoulder in the group size of a revolver and the oryx just stood there and took it like nothing. After it ran off they ended up shooting it quartering away. And got it done all the bullets not much if any expansion still in the shoulder. Again I am just saying what I was told. I guide with these guys so I feel like they have no reason to lie and they are like 60 plus years old.</p><p></p><p>On the sheep that we shot it was just big chunks taken out like bullet exploded. But he got hit with the 6.5 and than 3 times with 300 wsm and was still dragging himself. Ended up shooting him in the chest at about 60 yards head on. Again a gash/chunk the size of riffle scope take out but no real penetration. I don't know if its placement of shot or just the speeds or what but pretty much just have the issue they don't expand and in other cases just blow up. </p><p></p><p>Maybe I have the wrong load, maybe wrong gun or speed is off. I don't know? You watch the Best of The West highlight real of the 6.5x284 they were stoning everything 500 yards and out including Moose & Elk but maybe the bullet works better further. I am just getting into riffles legitimately. I have killed tons but never measured groups or shot hand loads. So, I am learning as I go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OCHO505, post: 2016185, member: 98352"] So for the one specific case on the Oryx the guide told me he was using a 220 or 230 Berger not sure which he shot the Oryx at 100 yards 3 or 4 times in the shoulder in the group size of a revolver and the oryx just stood there and took it like nothing. After it ran off they ended up shooting it quartering away. And got it done all the bullets not much if any expansion still in the shoulder. Again I am just saying what I was told. I guide with these guys so I feel like they have no reason to lie and they are like 60 plus years old. On the sheep that we shot it was just big chunks taken out like bullet exploded. But he got hit with the 6.5 and than 3 times with 300 wsm and was still dragging himself. Ended up shooting him in the chest at about 60 yards head on. Again a gash/chunk the size of riffle scope take out but no real penetration. I don't know if its placement of shot or just the speeds or what but pretty much just have the issue they don't expand and in other cases just blow up. Maybe I have the wrong load, maybe wrong gun or speed is off. I don't know? You watch the Best of The West highlight real of the 6.5x284 they were stoning everything 500 yards and out including Moose & Elk but maybe the bullet works better further. I am just getting into riffles legitimately. I have killed tons but never measured groups or shot hand loads. So, I am learning as I go. [/QUOTE]
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