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Does Strapping down your rifle result in tighter shot groups?
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<blockquote data-quote="royinidaho" data-source="post: 305829" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Mind if I chime in here?</p><p></p><p>Good.</p><p></p><p>Here goes.</p><p></p><p>First off shooting a 270 Win with 150 gr bullets with any of the 4831s is futile except for short range white tail shooting.</p><p></p><p>Next there isn't enough recoil there to warrant a lead sled. in fact there is nothing in this whole wide world that warrants a lead sled except when one wants to haul lead in snow. Seriously........</p><p></p><p>I also noted in one of the pics posted that there was a harmonic dampener on the barrel and a strap over the chamber area of the barrel.</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The strap renders the harmonic dampener useless.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">How often does one shoot in the field with a strap holding the fore end down?</li> </ol><p>I would venture to guess that point of impact and group size also could change significantly.</p><p></p><p>When hunting, especially LRH, it is imperative that the entire system is involved in load development, drop chart development and hunting. The "system" usually doesn't include a lead sled as its too heavy and bulky to lug to the shootin spot.</p><p></p><p>The standard accepted system, until better components are developed, include a rear bag(s) and a bipod up front. Some use shooting sticks. Whatever is used is what should be used during zeroing and drop chart development.</p><p></p><p>However, I do lean towards a sand bag, bench rest tripod and shooting bench with one hand for the pistol grip and trigger with the other for slight adjustment (squeezing) the sand bag for load development, chrono graphing and checking zero. I have noticed no POI changes when switching from tripod to bipod and it is always checked.</p><p></p><p>Any thing/object/device inserted between the human and the rifle in the system usually tends to detract from complete success.</p><p></p><p>If recoil is a personal sensitivity, a strap on shoulder protector or a shooting jacket may be useful. </p><p></p><p>Another consideration would be to shift from a 150 class bullet to a 140 NAB or even a Hornady 140 SPBT and stoke some RL-22 behind it an get the 270 into its class for LRH.</p><p></p><p>I don't like the way some of this post "sounded" I'll apologize in advance for any poor communications.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="royinidaho, post: 305829, member: 2011"] Mind if I chime in here? Good. Here goes. First off shooting a 270 Win with 150 gr bullets with any of the 4831s is futile except for short range white tail shooting. Next there isn't enough recoil there to warrant a lead sled. in fact there is nothing in this whole wide world that warrants a lead sled except when one wants to haul lead in snow. Seriously........ I also noted in one of the pics posted that there was a harmonic dampener on the barrel and a strap over the chamber area of the barrel. [LIST=1] [*]The strap renders the harmonic dampener useless. [*]How often does one shoot in the field with a strap holding the fore end down? [/LIST] I would venture to guess that point of impact and group size also could change significantly. When hunting, especially LRH, it is imperative that the entire system is involved in load development, drop chart development and hunting. The "system" usually doesn't include a lead sled as its too heavy and bulky to lug to the shootin spot. The standard accepted system, until better components are developed, include a rear bag(s) and a bipod up front. Some use shooting sticks. Whatever is used is what should be used during zeroing and drop chart development. However, I do lean towards a sand bag, bench rest tripod and shooting bench with one hand for the pistol grip and trigger with the other for slight adjustment (squeezing) the sand bag for load development, chrono graphing and checking zero. I have noticed no POI changes when switching from tripod to bipod and it is always checked. Any thing/object/device inserted between the human and the rifle in the system usually tends to detract from complete success. If recoil is a personal sensitivity, a strap on shoulder protector or a shooting jacket may be useful. Another consideration would be to shift from a 150 class bullet to a 140 NAB or even a Hornady 140 SPBT and stoke some RL-22 behind it an get the 270 into its class for LRH. I don't like the way some of this post "sounded" I'll apologize in advance for any poor communications. [/QUOTE]
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