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Does recoil begin before the bullet exits the muzzle?
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1672931" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>Loading the bipod can mean two things, some use it to load the system hard forward to control recoil and hold it in a straight back movement without bipod hop. Then you have taking the slack out of the system, I just take the slack out with barely any shoulder pressure, rear bag is firmed up and I just pull back straight on the grip and watch where my reticle goes, I make adjustments till the reticle is coming back and only moving vertical and always ending on the same spot then returning to the same. When I fire only my palm may be touching the stock and my cheek is just feeling the stock, this I can repeat from most positions and count on my POI being dead on.</p><p>I wacked a bull elk in the center of the neck at 825 one year with my front rest being a sage brush, did the same on a coyote siting at 960 but I was able to work with it and get the gun tracking so when I pulled the trigger the bullet went through the cross hair same as it would if I'd been on a bipod or my backpack. Tracking is the key, if you change how the rifle tracks during recoil you'll change POI.</p><p>I didn't really see how critical till shooting bench rest, you change the sand in your bags and you see it on the target, you change anything with how that gun tracks on the rest and bag and you can measure it easily, if you take that and apply it to long range hunting you can see how critical it since we vary our positions we have to look at how that guns moving before we take a shot to really know just how small and how good we can actually shoot cold bore!!</p><p>I've only see recoil with the bullet in bore calculated with all components once, my brother who is a has a PHD in Physics and Chemistry and is a shooter calculated, the roughly, with a whole list of things that can change that 3/8 ths of an inch, you have the bullet and powder weight but the bullet has significant resistance to moving, the bullet goes forward because its weight and time over comes the bullets resistance to move. We can see it it in chronograph numbers how consistently our gun moves under recoil so if we can measure the velocity difference between a firm hold and a free recoil there is major opportunity to effect accuracy and poi!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1672931, member: 13632"] Loading the bipod can mean two things, some use it to load the system hard forward to control recoil and hold it in a straight back movement without bipod hop. Then you have taking the slack out of the system, I just take the slack out with barely any shoulder pressure, rear bag is firmed up and I just pull back straight on the grip and watch where my reticle goes, I make adjustments till the reticle is coming back and only moving vertical and always ending on the same spot then returning to the same. When I fire only my palm may be touching the stock and my cheek is just feeling the stock, this I can repeat from most positions and count on my POI being dead on. I wacked a bull elk in the center of the neck at 825 one year with my front rest being a sage brush, did the same on a coyote siting at 960 but I was able to work with it and get the gun tracking so when I pulled the trigger the bullet went through the cross hair same as it would if I'd been on a bipod or my backpack. Tracking is the key, if you change how the rifle tracks during recoil you'll change POI. I didn't really see how critical till shooting bench rest, you change the sand in your bags and you see it on the target, you change anything with how that gun tracks on the rest and bag and you can measure it easily, if you take that and apply it to long range hunting you can see how critical it since we vary our positions we have to look at how that guns moving before we take a shot to really know just how small and how good we can actually shoot cold bore!! I've only see recoil with the bullet in bore calculated with all components once, my brother who is a has a PHD in Physics and Chemistry and is a shooter calculated, the roughly, with a whole list of things that can change that 3/8 ths of an inch, you have the bullet and powder weight but the bullet has significant resistance to moving, the bullet goes forward because its weight and time over comes the bullets resistance to move. We can see it it in chronograph numbers how consistently our gun moves under recoil so if we can measure the velocity difference between a firm hold and a free recoil there is major opportunity to effect accuracy and poi!! [/QUOTE]
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