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The Basics, Starting Out
Does energy = lethality?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hadderhunter" data-source="post: 1586499" data-attributes="member: 88014"><p>Energy = 1/2 of mass x velocity squared... that's why the .308 and 6.5 creedmore are at about the same energy levels even though the 6.5 is faster at that distance. The .308 has more mass.... There is a lot of math and science to LR shooting and hunting. My personal suggestion if you want to get into LR hunting vs "shooting" is to not "upgrade later" but get the right stuff now. If you want to go shoot steel at 1,000 yards or prairie dogs, etc. The set up you mentioned is fine. If you really want to "hunt" elk and deer and ethically kill things at 800-1000 yards, you need the right gun, optics, range finder, kestrel, etc. There is not magic pill for an off the shelf rifle and a box of ammo to cover every condition or situation. I am by no means an expert, but the last 10 years has taught me a lot. I am not trying to be a jerk, but conversations like this make me nervous. I would not shoot an elk with anything packing less than 1,000 lb ft of energy... that's my opinion, based on my experiences and my real life lessons learned. In other words, your 6.5 or .308 should not be considered a overall LR solution for all game... I would personally recommend considering a 7 rem mag for what you are talking about. Still not a magic pill, but meets the requirement of what you want to do on the upper end better... understand, its overbite for coyotes, but I'd rather overkill a coyote than under kill an elk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hadderhunter, post: 1586499, member: 88014"] Energy = 1/2 of mass x velocity squared... that's why the .308 and 6.5 creedmore are at about the same energy levels even though the 6.5 is faster at that distance. The .308 has more mass.... There is a lot of math and science to LR shooting and hunting. My personal suggestion if you want to get into LR hunting vs "shooting" is to not "upgrade later" but get the right stuff now. If you want to go shoot steel at 1,000 yards or prairie dogs, etc. The set up you mentioned is fine. If you really want to "hunt" elk and deer and ethically kill things at 800-1000 yards, you need the right gun, optics, range finder, kestrel, etc. There is not magic pill for an off the shelf rifle and a box of ammo to cover every condition or situation. I am by no means an expert, but the last 10 years has taught me a lot. I am not trying to be a jerk, but conversations like this make me nervous. I would not shoot an elk with anything packing less than 1,000 lb ft of energy... that's my opinion, based on my experiences and my real life lessons learned. In other words, your 6.5 or .308 should not be considered a overall LR solution for all game... I would personally recommend considering a 7 rem mag for what you are talking about. Still not a magic pill, but meets the requirement of what you want to do on the upper end better... understand, its overbite for coyotes, but I'd rather overkill a coyote than under kill an elk. [/QUOTE]
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