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<blockquote data-quote="goodgrouper" data-source="post: 74905" data-attributes="member: 2852"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p> Like most people I was always raised to shoot em in the heart/lung area. </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ] </p><p></p><p></p><p>As was I but after shooting a 25" 4x4 mule deer 8 times with a .270 at 50 yards in the lungs and heart and watching him stumble down a steep hill into some other hunters, I decided to try something different. In my opinion, this way of shooting for the heart/lung area is as old fashioned as the 32 win specials the men who formulated this now defunct bs carried. We now have the power above and beyond what our grandfathers ever dreamed we could shoot from a shoulder fired weapon. In all honesty, we have a gruesome over-abundance of power at our disposal. Look at all these Ultra mags and belted mags and high bc bullets. We have bone crushing power to use and we are still shooting for soft tissue? Not me. It's ok though. People scoffed at Wilbur and Orville wright too.</p><p>They had some new way of doing something that was very unorthodox to "old" thinkers.</p><p></p><p>ANyway, back to your questions.</p><p></p><p>I have written earlier posts on this subject that go into detail about this shot but would take too much time to type in entirety right now. Basically, you need roughly 800 ftlbs to break the shoulder blade of a full size cow elk, and about 900 ftlbs to break the shoulder of a big bull elk. As long as you have this amount, the shoulder will snap like a twig (and usually into several large pieces).</p><p></p><p>While the higher shoulder shot is best, I have hit two elk centered in the blade and it still worked with no problems. I believe there are a few shots on John Burn's video that went low on the blade and it still worked also. The cow I have pictured above was shot centered in the blade but still worked fine as you can see by the pic.</p><p></p><p>Even if you totally mess up and shoot so low that it hits the high leg, it will still snap it and an elk will give you a second shot. A mule deer on the other hand must be hit in the shoulder because the way they bound instead of gait, they can make it away with 3 legs.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodgrouper, post: 74905, member: 2852"] [ QUOTE ] Like most people I was always raised to shoot em in the heart/lung area. [/ QUOTE ] As was I but after shooting a 25" 4x4 mule deer 8 times with a .270 at 50 yards in the lungs and heart and watching him stumble down a steep hill into some other hunters, I decided to try something different. In my opinion, this way of shooting for the heart/lung area is as old fashioned as the 32 win specials the men who formulated this now defunct bs carried. We now have the power above and beyond what our grandfathers ever dreamed we could shoot from a shoulder fired weapon. In all honesty, we have a gruesome over-abundance of power at our disposal. Look at all these Ultra mags and belted mags and high bc bullets. We have bone crushing power to use and we are still shooting for soft tissue? Not me. It's ok though. People scoffed at Wilbur and Orville wright too. They had some new way of doing something that was very unorthodox to "old" thinkers. ANyway, back to your questions. I have written earlier posts on this subject that go into detail about this shot but would take too much time to type in entirety right now. Basically, you need roughly 800 ftlbs to break the shoulder blade of a full size cow elk, and about 900 ftlbs to break the shoulder of a big bull elk. As long as you have this amount, the shoulder will snap like a twig (and usually into several large pieces). While the higher shoulder shot is best, I have hit two elk centered in the blade and it still worked with no problems. I believe there are a few shots on John Burn's video that went low on the blade and it still worked also. The cow I have pictured above was shot centered in the blade but still worked fine as you can see by the pic. Even if you totally mess up and shoot so low that it hits the high leg, it will still snap it and an elk will give you a second shot. A mule deer on the other hand must be hit in the shoulder because the way they bound instead of gait, they can make it away with 3 legs. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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