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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 529598" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>Gary, I hate to see the same mistake repeated a million time, so I just want you to know that it is DIESEL and not deisel. The word comes from the inventor of the compression engine, <strong>Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel</strong> (yes, it was his name) You can read about it here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Diesel" target="_blank">Rudolf Diesel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p></p><p>The gasoline engine was invented by <strong>Nikolaus August Otto </strong>(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaus_Otto" target="_blank">Nikolaus Otto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a>) and if you work in the automotive industry in Germany you will still hear both engines called by those names (Otto engine = gasoline engine). I worked in Germany for 3 years of which half was spent working on the Ford Focus, which was engineered by Ford in the Dunton Engineering Center in London, and the other 18 months working on everyone else's system (Mercedes, Porsche, BMW, Audi, VW). </p><p></p><p>I arrived right after Peugeot launched the soot filter and just before everyone else started doing the same thing. Out of everyone I worked with, Mercedes seemed to be the most knowledgeable and open. Porsche was always cutting edge and pushing the boundaries of physics. BMW very organized and in some cases designing their cars around some key components instead of the other way around. The 3 series, I remember them punching the suspension mounting holes after the body was completely assembled, since they had concluded that the accuracy of body assembly could not be good enough (they had 0.020" tolerances on assembled panels, which was one of the smallest tolerances I had encountered. They built their tooling with meticulous planning and every clamp on a tool had its own valve so that engineers could easily check the fit of each and every clamp on the entire assembly line.</p><p></p><p>If you have ever gone to any of the SAE dinners, I found them to be sickening compared to going to meetings with the European car makers. The one meeting I went to was a meeting after the launch of the new F150. I listened to speaker after speaker talk about how the F150 was bigger, heavier and more powerful and how no man (who was a man, as opposed to a girly man) would be able to resist owning one. Yes, this is progress. Lets make it bigger heavier and more powerful and still call it an F150, where a few years ago you would have been lucky to get that in an F350. And what is being introduced that is lighter, smaller and more efficient for those of us who want to conserve our cash and don't need to wear a penis extender ? Yep, you got it ----- NOTHING. Europe, Australia, Africa there are tons of trucks from 1.7l to 3.0L turbo diesel which can get close to 50mpg and maybe down to the mid 20's on the bigger ones while shifting a load. Its been 8 years since I moved here and VW is the only car maker with a diesel and it runs $25k min, compared to $<12k for the last diesel vehicle I owned that got nearly 60mpg.</p><p></p><p>In the meantime, more and more people buy Japanese and Korean (make it and they will come) and the US car makers wonder why life is so tough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 529598, member: 35183"] Gary, I hate to see the same mistake repeated a million time, so I just want you to know that it is DIESEL and not deisel. The word comes from the inventor of the compression engine, [B]Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel[/B] (yes, it was his name) You can read about it here: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Diesel]Rudolf Diesel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] The gasoline engine was invented by [B]Nikolaus August Otto [/B]([url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaus_Otto]Nikolaus Otto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]) and if you work in the automotive industry in Germany you will still hear both engines called by those names (Otto engine = gasoline engine). I worked in Germany for 3 years of which half was spent working on the Ford Focus, which was engineered by Ford in the Dunton Engineering Center in London, and the other 18 months working on everyone else's system (Mercedes, Porsche, BMW, Audi, VW). I arrived right after Peugeot launched the soot filter and just before everyone else started doing the same thing. Out of everyone I worked with, Mercedes seemed to be the most knowledgeable and open. Porsche was always cutting edge and pushing the boundaries of physics. BMW very organized and in some cases designing their cars around some key components instead of the other way around. The 3 series, I remember them punching the suspension mounting holes after the body was completely assembled, since they had concluded that the accuracy of body assembly could not be good enough (they had 0.020" tolerances on assembled panels, which was one of the smallest tolerances I had encountered. They built their tooling with meticulous planning and every clamp on a tool had its own valve so that engineers could easily check the fit of each and every clamp on the entire assembly line. If you have ever gone to any of the SAE dinners, I found them to be sickening compared to going to meetings with the European car makers. The one meeting I went to was a meeting after the launch of the new F150. I listened to speaker after speaker talk about how the F150 was bigger, heavier and more powerful and how no man (who was a man, as opposed to a girly man) would be able to resist owning one. Yes, this is progress. Lets make it bigger heavier and more powerful and still call it an F150, where a few years ago you would have been lucky to get that in an F350. And what is being introduced that is lighter, smaller and more efficient for those of us who want to conserve our cash and don't need to wear a penis extender ? Yep, you got it ----- NOTHING. Europe, Australia, Africa there are tons of trucks from 1.7l to 3.0L turbo diesel which can get close to 50mpg and maybe down to the mid 20's on the bigger ones while shifting a load. Its been 8 years since I moved here and VW is the only car maker with a diesel and it runs $25k min, compared to $<12k for the last diesel vehicle I owned that got nearly 60mpg. In the meantime, more and more people buy Japanese and Korean (make it and they will come) and the US car makers wonder why life is so tough. [/QUOTE]
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