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Do I care how a barrel is made? or do I
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<blockquote data-quote="sighlous" data-source="post: 286575" data-attributes="member: 18069"><p>I think you guys are taking me a bit out of context, although that is fine... What I stated was 1/8 MOA at 100 yards not 1000. I would love to consistently shoot sub 5" groups at 1000 with my non bench / target guns but that just does not happen often. </p><p></p><p>You have to bear in mind that with shooting all things are not linear, so that rifle that shoots 1/8 moa at 100 has the potential to shoot 1/8 moa groups at 1000 but probably not. No matter how you cut it if you are long range shooting / hunting a 10.5 to 21" group ie 1 to 2 moa is not going to offer you the luxery of being less than precise on breaking the shot.</p><p></p><p>And no I am not talking about 6ppc's either with 21" 2-3" diameter boat anchor tubes. Nor am I talking about benchguns at all. From my bench guns I expect 1/8 moa past 600, and expect to see roughly 1/8 to 1/4 moa from my 6BRX at 1000. Take a look at the article on 6mmbr.com about Schatz setting the 1k record, as he did not use a completely specialized rig for bench, instead something comparable to a good varmiter.</p><p></p><p>What I am talking about here is the classic varmint / target / sniping style setup... If you are looking to bag a moose at 1000+ or any of the big 5 you may as well go to a 50bmg. Hathcock and Furlong have both proven that to be effective past a mile on humans... What I normally use for long range big game and playing is a 338 Lapua and a 300 Lapua that I built-up that is based off the 338 but spits out 7.62's.</p><p></p><p>To reiterate the big thing that I think a lot of you that criticised my demands on barrles are ignoring is that I set that standard at 100 yards and that I DO NOT expect that 1/8 MOA to be linear to all ranges...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sighlous, post: 286575, member: 18069"] I think you guys are taking me a bit out of context, although that is fine... What I stated was 1/8 MOA at 100 yards not 1000. I would love to consistently shoot sub 5" groups at 1000 with my non bench / target guns but that just does not happen often. You have to bear in mind that with shooting all things are not linear, so that rifle that shoots 1/8 moa at 100 has the potential to shoot 1/8 moa groups at 1000 but probably not. No matter how you cut it if you are long range shooting / hunting a 10.5 to 21" group ie 1 to 2 moa is not going to offer you the luxery of being less than precise on breaking the shot. And no I am not talking about 6ppc's either with 21" 2-3" diameter boat anchor tubes. Nor am I talking about benchguns at all. From my bench guns I expect 1/8 moa past 600, and expect to see roughly 1/8 to 1/4 moa from my 6BRX at 1000. Take a look at the article on 6mmbr.com about Schatz setting the 1k record, as he did not use a completely specialized rig for bench, instead something comparable to a good varmiter. What I am talking about here is the classic varmint / target / sniping style setup... If you are looking to bag a moose at 1000+ or any of the big 5 you may as well go to a 50bmg. Hathcock and Furlong have both proven that to be effective past a mile on humans... What I normally use for long range big game and playing is a 338 Lapua and a 300 Lapua that I built-up that is based off the 338 but spits out 7.62's. To reiterate the big thing that I think a lot of you that criticised my demands on barrles are ignoring is that I set that standard at 100 yards and that I DO NOT expect that 1/8 MOA to be linear to all ranges... [/QUOTE]
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