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Do I care how a barrel is made? or do I
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<blockquote data-quote="sighlous" data-source="post: 286407" data-attributes="member: 18069"><p>I have been in and around the shooting sports for quite some time. I totally disagree that an after market barrel from the respected makers in the industry is a crap shoot. Any Krieger, Lija, Obermeyer, boarder, etc has excellent potential to be a barn burner... Manufacturers like ER Shaw on the other hand are a crap shoot. If any of these makers barrels do not shoot less than a 1/4 MOA then you should be looking at your setup and tuning of the unit. Any action / barrel combo that for me will not shoot sub 1/8 MOA at 100 after tuning is not a combo to play with plain and simple.</p><p></p><p>What I have not seen any mention of here is pushed versus pulled buttons, multiple buttoned, and cleaning concerns... One big thing to remember with a buttoned barrel is that the internal dimensions are changed in a cold forging style process thus the internal dimensions are changed and loads of stress is induced. This is why heat or cryogenic stress relieving is essential where as say a krieger cut barrel has virtually no stress induced and has a truer internal dimension as it is simply easier to control the cut versus the potential dance of a button.</p><p></p><p>After many years of playing in this arena, I have come full circle and shoot mainly rimfire these days. As for my barrel opinions in the rimfire arena I would much rather have a well manufactured barrel that if anything has a slight increase in twist in the last 2" - 3" of the tube and has a funneled effect, thus insuring a good seal and final launch out of a perfect crown. This is also the only arena that I have found "production" barrels to be as accurate as the after markets... You will be hard pressed to put together a combo that will out preform any, Anschutz, Feinwerkbau, or Hammerli fresh off the factory floor.</p><p></p><p>As a closing note, you may want to go check out or buy the book "The Story of Pope's Barrels" by Ray Smith. There are a number of things I learned from that book and by having the honor of talking with Karl Kenyon, and Larry Moore in my early days...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sighlous, post: 286407, member: 18069"] I have been in and around the shooting sports for quite some time. I totally disagree that an after market barrel from the respected makers in the industry is a crap shoot. Any Krieger, Lija, Obermeyer, boarder, etc has excellent potential to be a barn burner... Manufacturers like ER Shaw on the other hand are a crap shoot. If any of these makers barrels do not shoot less than a 1/4 MOA then you should be looking at your setup and tuning of the unit. Any action / barrel combo that for me will not shoot sub 1/8 MOA at 100 after tuning is not a combo to play with plain and simple. What I have not seen any mention of here is pushed versus pulled buttons, multiple buttoned, and cleaning concerns... One big thing to remember with a buttoned barrel is that the internal dimensions are changed in a cold forging style process thus the internal dimensions are changed and loads of stress is induced. This is why heat or cryogenic stress relieving is essential where as say a krieger cut barrel has virtually no stress induced and has a truer internal dimension as it is simply easier to control the cut versus the potential dance of a button. After many years of playing in this arena, I have come full circle and shoot mainly rimfire these days. As for my barrel opinions in the rimfire arena I would much rather have a well manufactured barrel that if anything has a slight increase in twist in the last 2" - 3" of the tube and has a funneled effect, thus insuring a good seal and final launch out of a perfect crown. This is also the only arena that I have found "production" barrels to be as accurate as the after markets... You will be hard pressed to put together a combo that will out preform any, Anschutz, Feinwerkbau, or Hammerli fresh off the factory floor. As a closing note, you may want to go check out or buy the book "The Story of Pope's Barrels" by Ray Smith. There are a number of things I learned from that book and by having the honor of talking with Karl Kenyon, and Larry Moore in my early days... [/QUOTE]
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