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Do barrel cooling fans work (chamber chiller)?
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<blockquote data-quote="keithcandler" data-source="post: 1729210" data-attributes="member: 3728"><p>There is a better and much quicker way to cool a barrel. We have been using water down the bore to cool our barrels since 1987, finest benchrest, custom barrels, and chrome moly barrels with no adverse effects. The process from start to finish takes 3 minutes.</p><p></p><p>Takes about 6 oz of water to cool a barrel.</p><p></p><p>Water down the barrel has been used for a very long time, and the idea really turns some people off. This was designed by a real Rocket Scientist friend of mine that was head engineer for Rockwell.</p><p></p><p>Couple of key things to remember about cooling with water:</p><p></p><p>a. steel has to get to 850* before cooling with water would warp the steel. Barrel</p><p> temps we get while shooting never gets to 185*, so stating that warping the barrel</p><p> cooling with water is ill informed.</p><p></p><p>b. using a tight fitting punch type of jag with good thick flannel patches, there is</p><p> no water left in the barrel. IF there was water left in the barrel, there are</p><p> hot gases around 3000* that proceed the bullet down the barrel that would</p><p> instantly vaporize any micro molecules of water. Navy Seals and Marine</p><p> Recon come out of the water ready to shoot their M4's. So, making statments like</p><p> "water does not compress", once again is ill informed in how it applies to this</p><p> application.</p><p></p><p>c. pushing the carbon out of the barrel allows for longer shooting strings</p><p></p><p>d. out of habit I pushed an oily patch down the bore on chrome moly barrels, Rem</p><p> Varmint, Rem 788's, etc at the end of the shooting session. I have no rust in any </p><p> of my chrome moly barrels, 7 Mags, 270's, etc</p><p></p><p>Here is a picture of a Cleaning rod guide, pepsi bottle, and an oil can spout</p><p>available from Wally World and most parts stores at a cost of around $3.50</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20002_2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Tight fit between the oil can spout and bore guide keeps any water from escaping</p><p><img src="https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20004.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[.IMG]<a href="https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20005.jpg[/IMG]" target="_blank">https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water cooler 005.jpg[/IMG]</a><img src="https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20006.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />[/URL]</p><p></p><p><img src="https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20003.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />[/URL]</p><p></p><p>You need:</p><p></p><p>a. Cleaning rod</p><p>b. punch type of jag and flannel patches which will give a good tight fit</p><p>c. something to clean the chamber, I use a pistol cleaning rod, pistol bronze bristle brush, large patch</p><p>d. oil can adaptor</p><p>e. bore guide</p><p>f. some type of bottle to hold the water, even 2 liter bottles work. Water used</p><p> does not have to be cold</p><p></p><p>We used this method when shooting p. dogs and shooting in the Summer months when barrels never really cool off.</p><p></p><p>We used to carry 6 guns each when shooting p. dogs and rotated the rifles to allow the barrels to cool. The problem was that the barrels did not cool when the temps were 90* or higher.</p><p></p><p>I have explained this method to many, and it never ceases me as to how people are creatures of habit, never entertaining new ideas. Once a person has seen this procedure in person, they are simply dumbfounded at how fast and efficient the system works. I usually demonstrate the procedure in a very nice benchrest rifle or a custom hunting rifle.</p><p></p><p>I have this Hawkeye to examine barrels with</p><p><img src="https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/22250%20return%20004.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keithcandler, post: 1729210, member: 3728"] There is a better and much quicker way to cool a barrel. We have been using water down the bore to cool our barrels since 1987, finest benchrest, custom barrels, and chrome moly barrels with no adverse effects. The process from start to finish takes 3 minutes. Takes about 6 oz of water to cool a barrel. Water down the barrel has been used for a very long time, and the idea really turns some people off. This was designed by a real Rocket Scientist friend of mine that was head engineer for Rockwell. Couple of key things to remember about cooling with water: a. steel has to get to 850* before cooling with water would warp the steel. Barrel temps we get while shooting never gets to 185*, so stating that warping the barrel cooling with water is ill informed. b. using a tight fitting punch type of jag with good thick flannel patches, there is no water left in the barrel. IF there was water left in the barrel, there are hot gases around 3000* that proceed the bullet down the barrel that would instantly vaporize any micro molecules of water. Navy Seals and Marine Recon come out of the water ready to shoot their M4's. So, making statments like "water does not compress", once again is ill informed in how it applies to this application. c. pushing the carbon out of the barrel allows for longer shooting strings d. out of habit I pushed an oily patch down the bore on chrome moly barrels, Rem Varmint, Rem 788's, etc at the end of the shooting session. I have no rust in any of my chrome moly barrels, 7 Mags, 270's, etc Here is a picture of a Cleaning rod guide, pepsi bottle, and an oil can spout available from Wally World and most parts stores at a cost of around $3.50 [IMG]https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20002_2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Tight fit between the oil can spout and bore guide keeps any water from escaping [IMG]https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20004.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [.IMG][URL='https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20005.jpg[/IMG]']https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water cooler 005.jpg[/IMG][/URL][IMG]https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20006.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [IMG]https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/water%20cooler%20003.jpg[/IMG][/URL] You need: a. Cleaning rod b. punch type of jag and flannel patches which will give a good tight fit c. something to clean the chamber, I use a pistol cleaning rod, pistol bronze bristle brush, large patch d. oil can adaptor e. bore guide f. some type of bottle to hold the water, even 2 liter bottles work. Water used does not have to be cold We used this method when shooting p. dogs and shooting in the Summer months when barrels never really cool off. We used to carry 6 guns each when shooting p. dogs and rotated the rifles to allow the barrels to cool. The problem was that the barrels did not cool when the temps were 90* or higher. I have explained this method to many, and it never ceases me as to how people are creatures of habit, never entertaining new ideas. Once a person has seen this procedure in person, they are simply dumbfounded at how fast and efficient the system works. I usually demonstrate the procedure in a very nice benchrest rifle or a custom hunting rifle. I have this Hawkeye to examine barrels with [IMG]https://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q489/ackleyman/22250%20return%20004.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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