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<blockquote data-quote="DavidA" data-source="post: 2068714" data-attributes="member: 72334"><p>Okay here is my two cents. I have built bolt guns in 270 win, 284 win and 338 win. All Remage barrels on Rem 700 LA receivers. The 270 win I built with a 1-8 twist barrel in order to shoot the 170 Bergers and alike. It has a 26" barrel and I am getting 2,930 fps with the 170's. Make this an entirely new rifle from your dads 270 1-10 twist rifle. The 284 has a custom long throat loading out 197 SMK's to almost 3.5" Coal. It shoots 180 Bergers at 2,900 fps. Then there is the 338 win Mag 26" barrel. I get 2,850 out of 250 gr and 2,500 out of 300 gr bullets.</p><p> A friend of mine used some 270 win hand loads, 140 gr Ballistic tips on a buck. He was getting just over 3,000 fps out of his 22" barrel. He took a 150 yds shot on a big buck. Perfect shot just behind the font shoulder about 5" down from spine. The buck did not even take a step DRT. When he was dressing the deer he noted that the concussion form the bullet actually broke the bucks spine. </p><p></p><p>Here is the bottom line everyone of the above rifles loaded with good bullets will kill anything it hits, provided it hits it in the right place. Deer Bear, Elk, Antelope. They are a scale of magnitude. Really how much energy do you want the bullet to have to work with. Will a 270 win kill a bear. Absolutely. It is all about shot placement and the bullets you are using. The bigger the bullet the more energy you are going to put on target. The more leeway you are going to have on producing catastrophic damage. Basically you are going to have a bigger kill zone. </p><p></p><p>all things being equal If it was just one rifle,, it would be a 270 win with 1-8 twist barrel. Bullet's and component everywhere, and when you want something Speacial you can hand load anything. Moderate recoil and plenty accurate. Now if I was hunting Bear regularly or other dangerous game I would be wanting the 338 win mag. The 338 win mag is just a great cartridge . Very efficient, lots of ammo and components. A well placed 270 will do it but I would still want more energy on target and it would fit the bill. </p><p></p><p>In the middle is my 284 win l I love it accurate as hell. Problem is you are not going to find any off the shelf AMMO for it. It's all hand rolled. So if it were me and you were picking middle ground I would go with a 300 win mag or a 7mm Mag. Again great AMMO selection and they in turn will take anything. </p><p></p><p>in the end it is what you shoot best. That comes with practice and nothing can replace shot placement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DavidA, post: 2068714, member: 72334"] Okay here is my two cents. I have built bolt guns in 270 win, 284 win and 338 win. All Remage barrels on Rem 700 LA receivers. The 270 win I built with a 1-8 twist barrel in order to shoot the 170 Bergers and alike. It has a 26” barrel and I am getting 2,930 fps with the 170’s. Make this an entirely new rifle from your dads 270 1-10 twist rifle. The 284 has a custom long throat loading out 197 SMK’s to almost 3.5” Coal. It shoots 180 Bergers at 2,900 fps. Then there is the 338 win Mag 26” barrel. I get 2,850 out of 250 gr and 2,500 out of 300 gr bullets. A friend of mine used some 270 win hand loads, 140 gr Ballistic tips on a buck. He was getting just over 3,000 fps out of his 22” barrel. He took a 150 yds shot on a big buck. Perfect shot just behind the font shoulder about 5” down from spine. The buck did not even take a step DRT. When he was dressing the deer he noted that the concussion form the bullet actually broke the bucks spine. Here is the bottom line everyone of the above rifles loaded with good bullets will kill anything it hits, provided it hits it in the right place. Deer Bear, Elk, Antelope. They are a scale of magnitude. Really how much energy do you want the bullet to have to work with. Will a 270 win kill a bear. Absolutely. It is all about shot placement and the bullets you are using. The bigger the bullet the more energy you are going to put on target. The more leeway you are going to have on producing catastrophic damage. Basically you are going to have a bigger kill zone. all things being equal If it was just one rifle,, it would be a 270 win with 1-8 twist barrel. Bullet’s and component everywhere, and when you want something Speacial you can hand load anything. Moderate recoil and plenty accurate. Now if I was hunting Bear regularly or other dangerous game I would be wanting the 338 win mag. The 338 win mag is just a great cartridge . Very efficient, lots of ammo and components. A well placed 270 will do it but I would still want more energy on target and it would fit the bill. In the middle is my 284 win l I love it accurate as hell. Problem is you are not going to find any off the shelf AMMO for it. It’s all hand rolled. So if it were me and you were picking middle ground I would go with a 300 win mag or a 7mm Mag. Again great AMMO selection and they in turn will take anything. in the end it is what you shoot best. That comes with practice and nothing can replace shot placement. [/QUOTE]
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