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AR15/10 Rifles
Dmr/sdmr build and testing report.
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<blockquote data-quote="pondskipper" data-source="post: 1312967" data-attributes="member: 26430"><p>Sorry for not getting back on here sooner but I had a friend of mine call literally when I was getting off work this afternoon to tell me that coyotes killed one of his calves so I went over to his house to help him get rid of the carcass before his kids got home, it was their cow.. Anyway, it looks as if I'll be spending my weekend over there trying to kill some coyotes, I wasn't kidding when I said they have gotten extremely bad. I'll post photos on Monday but I will get a price list together for everything involved in the build. </p><p></p><p>PSA 18" lightweight m-lock upper with bcg and charge handle $339.99</p><p></p><p>PSA classic lower with A2 stock 199.99</p><p></p><p>White Oak armament 18" SPR barrel 1:7" twist rate and rifle length gas system $315 with shipping.</p><p></p><p>AR stoner adjustable gas block $65</p><p></p><p>Timney 3lb straight shoe single stage trigger $190</p><p></p><p>Magpul PRS stock $214.99 on sale. </p><p></p><p>Aero Precision nickel boron bolt carrier group $199</p><p></p><p>Jp silent captured spring $135</p><p></p><p>Ergo Deluxe grip $29 on sale locally. </p><p></p><p>Radian raptor ambidextrous charge handle $80 on sale</p><p></p><p>Total for completely decked out rifle minus optics, optics mount and billet receiver $1762</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind a few of the things listed wouldn't be totally necessary if all you were doing was hunting with the gun and not trying to milk it for everything it was worth, like the prs stock or the silent captured spring so that would save you about 350-375 depending, but you would still have a rifle that was fairly easily capable of groups in the .5-.6" range at 100 yards which is still very respectable for a semiautomatic rifle, I've seen a few factory AR's that are in the 2500 dollar price range that still struggle to achieve that kind of level of accuracy in real world conditions consistently. </p><p></p><p>Price with the wilson combat billet receiver after all was said and done $2372.00</p><p></p><p>If you are thinking about building an ar from the ground up with nothing but accuracy and strength in mind, this, as their website states, is the best foundation for a precision build and I can't disagree due to the results I'm getting from mine, that said, I won't say it's the absolute best because it's the only billet AR receiver I have any experience with. I'm sure something like the JP billet receiver set would be fantastic as well and I'm sure there are other good ones out there too. </p><p></p><p>Price with optics, $3572.00 </p><p></p><p>I didn't go into optics in this thread till this point because this was to be about building a precision AR and I didn't want to stray too far off topic, for accuracy testing I used my Burris XTR II 3-15X50 FFP and will likely swap it out with my 2-10X42 Burris XTR II for hunting, the reticle is fatter in the smaller scope, the zoom goes down lower and lets in a bit more light after the sun is practically completely gone, and a lot can happen with a few extra minutes of hunt time, especially with coyotes. Only having 10x max magnification for mid day work isn't a drawback either for long range, less problems with mirage and I've made consistent hits on steel at 1000 yards more times than I can recall with a fixed 10x scope when I first got into long range shooting about 15 years ago. </p><p></p><p>The scope mount use was initially a Burris 34mm but mine actually failed, the studs that ran through the mount actually started to pull through the mount, I don't know if mine was just faulty or if others have had this problem but it was 114 dollars completely wasted, and yes, before anyone asks I only torqued the two 1/2" nuts to 60 in-lbs, which is not an excessive amount of force by any means and I was using a 1/4" drive snap-on inch pound torque wrench, the same one I use to torque the rings and bases to my bolt guns, specifically the ones that have scopes that are as expensive as this AR I've built. Anyway, I've replaced that mount with the JP Enterprises 34mm AR optics mount, its twice the mount the Burris is for sure but is also twice the price, its way more solid and uses 5 torks bolts running through the mount to attach it to the upper receiver, I highly doubt it will ever give me any grief. </p><p></p><p>Again, I hope all this helps anyone looking to get into ars or anyone who's already familiar with them but wanted to make theirs more accurate, I still plan on posting photos but will have to wait till Monday, got coyotes that need to be taught a lesson! gun)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pondskipper, post: 1312967, member: 26430"] Sorry for not getting back on here sooner but I had a friend of mine call literally when I was getting off work this afternoon to tell me that coyotes killed one of his calves so I went over to his house to help him get rid of the carcass before his kids got home, it was their cow.. Anyway, it looks as if I'll be spending my weekend over there trying to kill some coyotes, I wasn't kidding when I said they have gotten extremely bad. I'll post photos on Monday but I will get a price list together for everything involved in the build. PSA 18" lightweight m-lock upper with bcg and charge handle $339.99 PSA classic lower with A2 stock 199.99 White Oak armament 18" SPR barrel 1:7" twist rate and rifle length gas system $315 with shipping. AR stoner adjustable gas block $65 Timney 3lb straight shoe single stage trigger $190 Magpul PRS stock $214.99 on sale. Aero Precision nickel boron bolt carrier group $199 Jp silent captured spring $135 Ergo Deluxe grip $29 on sale locally. Radian raptor ambidextrous charge handle $80 on sale Total for completely decked out rifle minus optics, optics mount and billet receiver $1762 Keep in mind a few of the things listed wouldn't be totally necessary if all you were doing was hunting with the gun and not trying to milk it for everything it was worth, like the prs stock or the silent captured spring so that would save you about 350-375 depending, but you would still have a rifle that was fairly easily capable of groups in the .5-.6" range at 100 yards which is still very respectable for a semiautomatic rifle, I've seen a few factory AR's that are in the 2500 dollar price range that still struggle to achieve that kind of level of accuracy in real world conditions consistently. Price with the wilson combat billet receiver after all was said and done $2372.00 If you are thinking about building an ar from the ground up with nothing but accuracy and strength in mind, this, as their website states, is the best foundation for a precision build and I can't disagree due to the results I'm getting from mine, that said, I won't say it's the absolute best because it's the only billet AR receiver I have any experience with. I'm sure something like the JP billet receiver set would be fantastic as well and I'm sure there are other good ones out there too. Price with optics, $3572.00 I didn't go into optics in this thread till this point because this was to be about building a precision AR and I didn't want to stray too far off topic, for accuracy testing I used my Burris XTR II 3-15X50 FFP and will likely swap it out with my 2-10X42 Burris XTR II for hunting, the reticle is fatter in the smaller scope, the zoom goes down lower and lets in a bit more light after the sun is practically completely gone, and a lot can happen with a few extra minutes of hunt time, especially with coyotes. Only having 10x max magnification for mid day work isn't a drawback either for long range, less problems with mirage and I've made consistent hits on steel at 1000 yards more times than I can recall with a fixed 10x scope when I first got into long range shooting about 15 years ago. The scope mount use was initially a Burris 34mm but mine actually failed, the studs that ran through the mount actually started to pull through the mount, I don't know if mine was just faulty or if others have had this problem but it was 114 dollars completely wasted, and yes, before anyone asks I only torqued the two 1/2" nuts to 60 in-lbs, which is not an excessive amount of force by any means and I was using a 1/4" drive snap-on inch pound torque wrench, the same one I use to torque the rings and bases to my bolt guns, specifically the ones that have scopes that are as expensive as this AR I've built. Anyway, I've replaced that mount with the JP Enterprises 34mm AR optics mount, its twice the mount the Burris is for sure but is also twice the price, its way more solid and uses 5 torks bolts running through the mount to attach it to the upper receiver, I highly doubt it will ever give me any grief. Again, I hope all this helps anyone looking to get into ars or anyone who's already familiar with them but wanted to make theirs more accurate, I still plan on posting photos but will have to wait till Monday, got coyotes that need to be taught a lesson! gun) [/QUOTE]
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