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<blockquote data-quote="Ranchdog" data-source="post: 1995495" data-attributes="member: 113574"><p>This thread has been a wonderful read today as time has allowed. I would like to mention that I have taken time to read and think upon the prose that has been spoken in regards to my comments earlier today as requested. I am never opposed to a good hearty debate with respect and clarity of thought. As I lead off, my comments may have been read with a lens of misunderstanding of the original post which drew my position off topic. Am I a rancher, yes. Am I an avid hunter an outdoorsman, yes. I do believe the two can coexist to create land that provides beneficial habitat for wildlife that we love to hunt. Cattle, horses, pivots and even sheep all have their place as well as corn, wheat, soybean and sunflower, this is how we strive to feed our country and the world. The issues that arise that many of us stand juxtaposed, is the management of these resources and assets. </p><p></p><p>Range animals through out our country when managed properly with the land can actually create habitat that makes wildlife thrive. The problem is many ranchers and farmers have tried to spread themselves too thin. When you believe that you can run 350 head of pairs in a range land that requires roughly 26 acres per pair, and you have ground that can only support 200-250, and you are depending on a wet year where you grass has multiple green-ups, or potential leases that many times fall through based on AUM costs, often you will get stuck in a dry year such as this where you completely over graze and make your place look like a "Dust Bowl." Do I believe that many ranchers create more problems for the ecosystem, that is a resounding yes. Is this the blanket we all huddle under, no. </p><p></p><p>I personally hold steadfast to the rotational grazing programs that create sustainability through lean years on private ground and Forest Service. Throughout my life I have worked for ranchers that have taken every ounce they can of grass from pastures and Forest Service Leases and yes the wildlife habitat is drastically damaged and makes survival migration ruin many of our previous lush hunting grounds. I have also worked for people who have a carrying capacity of 1800 pairs and have managed the place to a profitable, sustainable operation running 1300 pair and in so doing have created wonderful habitat for wildlife. I have seen the 20-30 day rotational grazing periods work first hand and it makes grass readily available even on dry years. FSA, NRCS and FWP have programs, grants, and education made available to anyone who is willing to change their methodology and branch out of the narrow-minded, old-school stretch it all one day short of broke mindset. Management of resources is what is truly the problem in our country, our hunting grounds, grasslands, and wallets it is not the cows, horses and pivots. This is evident even in our households, the American dream, lets over leverage ourselves with debt to create the life that we must have.</p><p></p><p>I do apologize sincerely if my comments we taken out of context but I will always call a spade a spade and the hunters, travelers, and locals that do not realize their actions can carry massive repercussions to our habitats should always be the domestic enemy for us outdoorsmen and women. Utter disregard to private property, laws, Fire Bans, zoning regulations, and small town community establishments is what draws my ire. Every state experiences out of state hunters and travelers as aforementioned we are a fluid society. However it is our responsibility to hold those that are out of line accountable for their actions. Happy Hunting this Fall everyone and per my original post, Call in the violations of Burn Bans and don't use my driveway as basecamp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ranchdog, post: 1995495, member: 113574"] This thread has been a wonderful read today as time has allowed. I would like to mention that I have taken time to read and think upon the prose that has been spoken in regards to my comments earlier today as requested. I am never opposed to a good hearty debate with respect and clarity of thought. As I lead off, my comments may have been read with a lens of misunderstanding of the original post which drew my position off topic. Am I a rancher, yes. Am I an avid hunter an outdoorsman, yes. I do believe the two can coexist to create land that provides beneficial habitat for wildlife that we love to hunt. Cattle, horses, pivots and even sheep all have their place as well as corn, wheat, soybean and sunflower, this is how we strive to feed our country and the world. The issues that arise that many of us stand juxtaposed, is the management of these resources and assets. Range animals through out our country when managed properly with the land can actually create habitat that makes wildlife thrive. The problem is many ranchers and farmers have tried to spread themselves too thin. When you believe that you can run 350 head of pairs in a range land that requires roughly 26 acres per pair, and you have ground that can only support 200-250, and you are depending on a wet year where you grass has multiple green-ups, or potential leases that many times fall through based on AUM costs, often you will get stuck in a dry year such as this where you completely over graze and make your place look like a "Dust Bowl." Do I believe that many ranchers create more problems for the ecosystem, that is a resounding yes. Is this the blanket we all huddle under, no. I personally hold steadfast to the rotational grazing programs that create sustainability through lean years on private ground and Forest Service. Throughout my life I have worked for ranchers that have taken every ounce they can of grass from pastures and Forest Service Leases and yes the wildlife habitat is drastically damaged and makes survival migration ruin many of our previous lush hunting grounds. I have also worked for people who have a carrying capacity of 1800 pairs and have managed the place to a profitable, sustainable operation running 1300 pair and in so doing have created wonderful habitat for wildlife. I have seen the 20-30 day rotational grazing periods work first hand and it makes grass readily available even on dry years. FSA, NRCS and FWP have programs, grants, and education made available to anyone who is willing to change their methodology and branch out of the narrow-minded, old-school stretch it all one day short of broke mindset. Management of resources is what is truly the problem in our country, our hunting grounds, grasslands, and wallets it is not the cows, horses and pivots. This is evident even in our households, the American dream, lets over leverage ourselves with debt to create the life that we must have. I do apologize sincerely if my comments we taken out of context but I will always call a spade a spade and the hunters, travelers, and locals that do not realize their actions can carry massive repercussions to our habitats should always be the domestic enemy for us outdoorsmen and women. Utter disregard to private property, laws, Fire Bans, zoning regulations, and small town community establishments is what draws my ire. Every state experiences out of state hunters and travelers as aforementioned we are a fluid society. However it is our responsibility to hold those that are out of line accountable for their actions. Happy Hunting this Fall everyone and per my original post, Call in the violations of Burn Bans and don't use my driveway as basecamp. [/QUOTE]
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