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<blockquote data-quote="teesquare" data-source="post: 1190426" data-attributes="member: 56740"><p>WOW....What a thread!</p><p></p><p>And I think there is much experience to share from several different perspectives.</p><p></p><p>Thus far, my take away from this thread and field experience combined to summarize as follows:</p><p></p><p>Holdover - it depends a lot on the distance to the animal. In my hunts - the opportunities for a shoot/no shoot decision must be fast. It is the style of hunting and the hunting environment I enjoy. Often, an animal steps out that I was not stalking - and requires rapid response with scope - to - eye and use of known marks on the reticle as yardage estimators. FASTER than is possible to dial. So, holdover for me out to 300 yards is a reasonable equation for success. My rifles are zeroed at 300, so out to 400 +, - ....I will holdover and often I can lean on a tree, rock, log etc.</p><p></p><p>Dialing: If it is really far to the target ( beyond 400-500 yards as an example ) - you probably have the time for dialing, and even the luxury of a bipod, tripod, or shooting sticks. So dialing - whilst having a solid support for the forend - makes sense to me.</p><p></p><p>Where I think the heightened sensibilities ( o.k....egos<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> ) have been bruised, or some folks have gotten "harrumphed"<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />- is that there seems to be a mistaken belief that ONE method is THE answer ALL of the time. It isn't - at least for hunting. Because we have un-controlled circumstance when hunting. That is part of the challenge that we love - right? The distance to the target, the zero point of the rifle, and the reticle in the scope you have mounted on - and your confidence/familiarity/training can create a formula that you should get comfortable with. It is an individual one - but influenced by the conditions you hunt in and the game as well.</p><p>Whereas - for pure long range steel whacking' - where we use a bench, or we are prone and on a solid bag or bi-pod....Dialing is the common sense to accuracy for ONE reason: Because when we hold over - the possibility of less than solid, steady hand is real. A twitch of the eye....etc...you get the picture.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>And - none of this even takes into act. the individual's visual acuity...Some folks do not have the same "eagle eye" that they used to. Getting' old ain't for sissies!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="teesquare, post: 1190426, member: 56740"] WOW....What a thread! And I think there is much experience to share from several different perspectives. Thus far, my take away from this thread and field experience combined to summarize as follows: Holdover - it depends a lot on the distance to the animal. In my hunts - the opportunities for a shoot/no shoot decision must be fast. It is the style of hunting and the hunting environment I enjoy. Often, an animal steps out that I was not stalking - and requires rapid response with scope - to - eye and use of known marks on the reticle as yardage estimators. FASTER than is possible to dial. So, holdover for me out to 300 yards is a reasonable equation for success. My rifles are zeroed at 300, so out to 400 +, - ....I will holdover and often I can lean on a tree, rock, log etc. Dialing: If it is really far to the target ( beyond 400-500 yards as an example ) - you probably have the time for dialing, and even the luxury of a bipod, tripod, or shooting sticks. So dialing - whilst having a solid support for the forend - makes sense to me. Where I think the heightened sensibilities ( o.k....egos:D ) have been bruised, or some folks have gotten "harrumphed":)- is that there seems to be a mistaken belief that ONE method is THE answer ALL of the time. It isn't - at least for hunting. Because we have un-controlled circumstance when hunting. That is part of the challenge that we love - right? The distance to the target, the zero point of the rifle, and the reticle in the scope you have mounted on - and your confidence/familiarity/training can create a formula that you should get comfortable with. It is an individual one - but influenced by the conditions you hunt in and the game as well. Whereas - for pure long range steel whacking' - where we use a bench, or we are prone and on a solid bag or bi-pod....Dialing is the common sense to accuracy for ONE reason: Because when we hold over - the possibility of less than solid, steady hand is real. A twitch of the eye....etc...you get the picture.:) And - none of this even takes into act. the individual's visual acuity...Some folks do not have the same "eagle eye" that they used to. Getting' old ain't for sissies! [/QUOTE]
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