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delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?
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<blockquote data-quote="Darryl Cassel" data-source="post: 8709" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>Now lets take the pressures on up a tad to say 75000 or 80000 and see what the cases do.</p><p>Remember the Lapua is "NOT" as big as the 378 or 416 Rigby IMP cases which I am mainly refering to.</p><p></p><p>True the Lapua cases are very good but, so are the Norma cases in the big stuff. The big stuff I'm refering to again are the 378 Weatherby and the 416 Rigby Imp size cases (mainly), which the Lapua Imp does not compare, as per case capacity.</p><p></p><p> 7 grs of powder increase in a large chambered "30 Cal" bore to gain 300 FPS, that's about right, until you reach a certain point and with certain powders.</p><p></p><p>The "Main" point Brent is missing here is;</p><p>Why fool with a Remington action (which I have several guns chambered on) using cases such as 378 and 416 Rigby IMP, when for very little increase in money, a person can have a custom action which has much better quality, tolerances and strength then any Remington would have?</p><p></p><p>This decision, each Longrange hunter or 1000 yard Compitition shooter "MUST" consider before jumping into the 378 or 416 size cases.</p><p>Again, I certainly would NOT put those size cases or the smaller 338 Lapua on a Remington action, but, that's just my opinion and those who have been in this longrange game longer then me.</p><p>I'm including the thoughts of the well known gunsmiths Howard Wolfe and Bruce Baer who have both built World Record 1000 yard compitition and Longrange hunting guns to.</p><p></p><p>Everyone has the right to chamber anything they want to, "if" they can get a smith to take the responsibility.</p><p>For "my" money and piece of mind when using the 416 Rigby IMP and heavy loads such as 122.5 grs, I will be using a large custom action. </p><p></p><p>You fellows make your own decision but, remember the problems that you "could" experiance because you didn't spend another $200.00 to $400.00 for a real good action.</p><p></p><p>Remember I'm mainly refering to cases the size of the 378 Weatherby, the 378 Weatherby IMP and the 416 Rigby IMP here and NOT the smaller standard mags.</p><p>I guess we can include the 338 Lapua IMP also but it has much less powder capacity then the above mentioned cases do. </p><p></p><p>Later</p><p>DC <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>[ 01-07-2004: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darryl Cassel, post: 8709, member: 34"] Now lets take the pressures on up a tad to say 75000 or 80000 and see what the cases do. Remember the Lapua is "NOT" as big as the 378 or 416 Rigby IMP cases which I am mainly refering to. True the Lapua cases are very good but, so are the Norma cases in the big stuff. The big stuff I'm refering to again are the 378 Weatherby and the 416 Rigby Imp size cases (mainly), which the Lapua Imp does not compare, as per case capacity. 7 grs of powder increase in a large chambered "30 Cal" bore to gain 300 FPS, that's about right, until you reach a certain point and with certain powders. The "Main" point Brent is missing here is; Why fool with a Remington action (which I have several guns chambered on) using cases such as 378 and 416 Rigby IMP, when for very little increase in money, a person can have a custom action which has much better quality, tolerances and strength then any Remington would have? This decision, each Longrange hunter or 1000 yard Compitition shooter "MUST" consider before jumping into the 378 or 416 size cases. Again, I certainly would NOT put those size cases or the smaller 338 Lapua on a Remington action, but, that's just my opinion and those who have been in this longrange game longer then me. I'm including the thoughts of the well known gunsmiths Howard Wolfe and Bruce Baer who have both built World Record 1000 yard compitition and Longrange hunting guns to. Everyone has the right to chamber anything they want to, "if" they can get a smith to take the responsibility. For "my" money and piece of mind when using the 416 Rigby IMP and heavy loads such as 122.5 grs, I will be using a large custom action. You fellows make your own decision but, remember the problems that you "could" experiance because you didn't spend another $200.00 to $400.00 for a real good action. Remember I'm mainly refering to cases the size of the 378 Weatherby, the 378 Weatherby IMP and the 416 Rigby IMP here and NOT the smaller standard mags. I guess we can include the 338 Lapua IMP also but it has much less powder capacity then the above mentioned cases do. Later DC [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [ 01-07-2004: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ] [/QUOTE]
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