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<blockquote data-quote="mrbb" data-source="post: 1173756" data-attributes="member: 11837"><p>HAHAHa</p><p> IA agree money from timbering might never make it to wildlife projects</p><p> BUT the simple fact timbering alone would benefit ALL wildlife, so a win there by default</p><p></p><p>next is, again, MY point to a slight degree</p><p> OTHER states that border PA< have better habitat, as they didn't let things GO as far out of wack as the PA folks did!</p><p>TOO much Hype about having the most hunters and deer numbers, for bragging rights and that made the forest and wildlife suffer!</p><p></p><p> SO< again, PA dropped the ball as to what other states did</p><p> as a fact MOST all other states have had an INCREASE in critters not a drop off like we have!</p><p> to the point MOST have up'd there limits trying to NOT go down the road PA went!</p><p>and these states again have smaller amounts of land they can control/manage</p><p></p><p> the shear numbers of food plots and co op farms in Ohio, is mind blowing as to the percentage of public lands they have</p><p></p><p>I hunted there for almost 20 yrs and seen things get better and better</p><p> WILL admit that last 2-3 seasons it seems there are less deer there, BUT I honestly think its more about SO many deer being nocturnal , so sightings are less</p><p> forest are THICK with growth and browse, I see tons of rabbits on forested(near farm lands)</p><p> and in general a LOT of small game</p><p> WV again hunted there for almost 20+ yrs now</p><p> and the deer numbers there are insane , WAY too many, I think its like 1-14 folks hit a deer there with there car, highest deer/car accidents rate in the USA by a LOT.</p><p>forest there WHERE I HUNT are still loaded with browse, thick and healthy looking supporting game well</p><p>can kill 7 deer a yr if you like, 2 bucks!, maybe more doe in some places too!</p><p></p><p>SO< again, when folks only see PA< they to me seem to recall the golden yrs, or NEW guys that think the antler restriction is making for BIGGER bucks and are happy for that</p><p></p><p> ME< I hunt a LOT< normally have for 3 months a yr for about 25+ yrs in many states</p><p> I have see over the yrs how places have changed</p><p> I don't hunt just ONE area either, and never have, yes I have spots I go to every yr, but I have always like learning new places</p><p></p><p> and again I have seen places get better OUTSIDE of PA, and places in PA </p><p>go south and still are far from becoming better</p><p> had a gun store for many yrs</p><p> and cannot tell you the horror stories I have heard about the PA GC</p><p>not to mention I have some pretty BAD experience's with them myself( and NO I have never been fined /or cited by them, so its not that at all)</p><p></p><p>I again, back to OP's topic</p><p> cannot say I see PA as a GREAT state for hunting, NOT like it was, and far from it in MANY ways</p><p> and I don't believe seeing 40-100 deer a day was ever good, nor want that again! or expect it</p><p></p><p>I would like to see better habitat management, better quality of cover and FOOD for critters ALL YR</p><p></p><p> easiest way again to get that is TIMBERING, it not only creates cover and food, it puts $$ in there budget, and MAYBE some will benefit wildlife</p><p> a WIN WIN</p><p> and NO I don't have anything to do with any timber company's either LOL</p><p></p><p>yes PA still has game, if you work HARD you can find it</p><p></p><p>BUT with ALL the land the STATE has, IMO< it should be better and NOT so hard to find it!</p><p></p><p> think about this, WHY do so many folk's complain about MORE game being on private lands, and how private lands are better than public, better odds???</p><p> MOST times its due to private lands are managed better and taken care of better</p><p>I know mine are</p><p> I can see 30-50 deer a day on them, I have food 365/24/7 for them too</p><p> I have timbered sections on a rotation to keep cover new and appealing, to have a wide range of tree growth, NOT just mature or new</p><p></p><p>and yes I have BIG bucks too</p><p></p><p> it is possible ANY WHERE IN PA</p><p> </p><p>like they say, plant it and they will come</p><p> make it appealing and have sustainable food ALL yr and they will stay and strive!</p><p></p><p> and THEN you will know what GOOD land is like!!</p><p>I'm one guy, do all work myself, and pay for it all</p><p></p><p> a big gov dept like the PA GC, should be able to do more than WHAT they have done!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mrbb, post: 1173756, member: 11837"] HAHAHa IA agree money from timbering might never make it to wildlife projects BUT the simple fact timbering alone would benefit ALL wildlife, so a win there by default next is, again, MY point to a slight degree OTHER states that border PA< have better habitat, as they didn't let things GO as far out of wack as the PA folks did! TOO much Hype about having the most hunters and deer numbers, for bragging rights and that made the forest and wildlife suffer! SO< again, PA dropped the ball as to what other states did as a fact MOST all other states have had an INCREASE in critters not a drop off like we have! to the point MOST have up'd there limits trying to NOT go down the road PA went! and these states again have smaller amounts of land they can control/manage the shear numbers of food plots and co op farms in Ohio, is mind blowing as to the percentage of public lands they have I hunted there for almost 20 yrs and seen things get better and better WILL admit that last 2-3 seasons it seems there are less deer there, BUT I honestly think its more about SO many deer being nocturnal , so sightings are less forest are THICK with growth and browse, I see tons of rabbits on forested(near farm lands) and in general a LOT of small game WV again hunted there for almost 20+ yrs now and the deer numbers there are insane , WAY too many, I think its like 1-14 folks hit a deer there with there car, highest deer/car accidents rate in the USA by a LOT. forest there WHERE I HUNT are still loaded with browse, thick and healthy looking supporting game well can kill 7 deer a yr if you like, 2 bucks!, maybe more doe in some places too! SO< again, when folks only see PA< they to me seem to recall the golden yrs, or NEW guys that think the antler restriction is making for BIGGER bucks and are happy for that ME< I hunt a LOT< normally have for 3 months a yr for about 25+ yrs in many states I have see over the yrs how places have changed I don't hunt just ONE area either, and never have, yes I have spots I go to every yr, but I have always like learning new places and again I have seen places get better OUTSIDE of PA, and places in PA go south and still are far from becoming better had a gun store for many yrs and cannot tell you the horror stories I have heard about the PA GC not to mention I have some pretty BAD experience's with them myself( and NO I have never been fined /or cited by them, so its not that at all) I again, back to OP's topic cannot say I see PA as a GREAT state for hunting, NOT like it was, and far from it in MANY ways and I don't believe seeing 40-100 deer a day was ever good, nor want that again! or expect it I would like to see better habitat management, better quality of cover and FOOD for critters ALL YR easiest way again to get that is TIMBERING, it not only creates cover and food, it puts $$ in there budget, and MAYBE some will benefit wildlife a WIN WIN and NO I don't have anything to do with any timber company's either LOL yes PA still has game, if you work HARD you can find it BUT with ALL the land the STATE has, IMO< it should be better and NOT so hard to find it! think about this, WHY do so many folk's complain about MORE game being on private lands, and how private lands are better than public, better odds??? MOST times its due to private lands are managed better and taken care of better I know mine are I can see 30-50 deer a day on them, I have food 365/24/7 for them too I have timbered sections on a rotation to keep cover new and appealing, to have a wide range of tree growth, NOT just mature or new and yes I have BIG bucks too it is possible ANY WHERE IN PA like they say, plant it and they will come make it appealing and have sustainable food ALL yr and they will stay and strive! and THEN you will know what GOOD land is like!! I'm one guy, do all work myself, and pay for it all a big gov dept like the PA GC, should be able to do more than WHAT they have done! [/QUOTE]
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