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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 681206" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>I get the same attitude alot with adults. WHEN it happens, a husband or boyfriend brings his better half into the shop and if they show any interest in shooting or rifles, most times the guy will blow off the ladies questions like they are embarrassing them with stupid questions. </p><p> </p><p>What really gets them is when I give the ladies my full attention and answer all their questions in detail and kind of blow off the guys snobbish response to their ladies.</p><p> </p><p>Even better is when you can get them both shooting on the range. I remember one time when a younger couple came up, in their late 30s. The guy was what he called a VERY EXPERIENCED long range shooter. His girfriend had never shot a rifle larger then a 223.</p><p> </p><p>He was interested in one of my 375 AM rifles so I loaded up the equipment and headed out to our long range shooting area. Set my gong up at 1300 yards and set the rifle up for the guy. It took him a few shots but he was hitting pretty consistant after 10-15 rounds down the barrel but his groups were nothing to write home about. About 3 times what this rifle was capable of producing on any give day.</p><p> </p><p>He was pretty cocky after that and then I asked his wife if she wanted to shoot the rifle. Before she answered he interupted saying there was no way she could shoot this big of a rifle. She did look a little intimidated for sure. What they did not know is that I also had packed nearly the identical rifle but chambered in 338 AM instead of the 375 AM.</p><p> </p><p>I unpacked that 338 AM and looked the lady square in the eye and told her I would never set up a new shooter on any rifle that would hurt them in any way and that if she concentrated on my instructions and on the reticle and target she would be slappin steel right off the bat.</p><p> </p><p>Her first shot was the obvious close your eyes and yank the trigger that is common the first time most shoot these rifles. Her first shot landed about 5 yards low. I then looked at her and said, now you know there is nothing to worry about from recoil and you can just relax and shoot the rifle.</p><p> </p><p>She agreed with her boyfriend sneering in the background. Her next shot clipped the bottom edge of the 20" gong. I asked her if the shot felt good and she said yes so I gave the scope 3/4 moa up in adjustment. Her next shot was dang near dead center. Third shot was about 5" right of center and her last shot was about 8" low and 5" to the right. Total size of the group for the last three shots was right around 9.5" ctc. Not to bad at 1300 yards.</p><p> </p><p>The boyfriend saw this group that made his look pretty weak and said, well, If I were shooting that rifle I would have shot a much better group as well. Doing everything he could to belittle his wife instead of building her confidence with praise. Knowing the type of guy this was I replied, "All right, your wife has done the hard work, we know the hold" and handed him three rounds, said "Its time to put up or shot up!"</p><p> </p><p>He just kind of looked at me with a timid look but the look his wife was giving him was priceless. One of those, ya shot up and prove it looks!!!</p><p> </p><p>He settled into the rifle. First shot was 5" high of center. Second shot was about 8" low and 5" to the right and his last shot was on the right edge of the gong, around 9" off center. 14-15" ctc group. Certainly not terrible at 1300 yards but dramatically larger then his wifes group. He became much more humble after that.</p><p> </p><p>My point for this story is simple. The future of our shooting sports, our heritage, our way of life with firearms has very little to do with thos of us that are shooting right now. Obviously we have to support the shooting sports and put people into office that will do the same. But the most critical way we have to save out way of living is to get women involved in our way of living. They will be the ones to save our sport, not us. New shooters are the key, make or female, does not matter but every lady we can get involved passionately in the shooting sports is a huge boost to our future. So if you have a little girl or a girlfriend or a wife, take them out shooting, be patient, be supporting, in no way should you EVER be negative with them, always supportive.</p><p> </p><p>Never have then shoot anything that may scare them or hurt them, ITS NOT FUNNY and it ****es me off when I see guys doing this. That is the best way to ruin a lady from shooting for the rest of her life and as such, you have just lost a supporter of the shooting sports thanks to their DUMB *** BOYFRIENDS OR HUSBANDS.</p><p> </p><p>The rifle we put together for Ricks daughter is not a heavy recoiling rifle, especially for an experienced little shooter and I know Rick will pay very close attention to limit her shooting to prevent any flinch from occuring. As she groups up even more, the rifle will turn into a real ***** cat. It was designed well for its design goal so recoil is not a real issue.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, enough rant on the subject.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 681206, member: 10"] I get the same attitude alot with adults. WHEN it happens, a husband or boyfriend brings his better half into the shop and if they show any interest in shooting or rifles, most times the guy will blow off the ladies questions like they are embarrassing them with stupid questions. What really gets them is when I give the ladies my full attention and answer all their questions in detail and kind of blow off the guys snobbish response to their ladies. Even better is when you can get them both shooting on the range. I remember one time when a younger couple came up, in their late 30s. The guy was what he called a VERY EXPERIENCED long range shooter. His girfriend had never shot a rifle larger then a 223. He was interested in one of my 375 AM rifles so I loaded up the equipment and headed out to our long range shooting area. Set my gong up at 1300 yards and set the rifle up for the guy. It took him a few shots but he was hitting pretty consistant after 10-15 rounds down the barrel but his groups were nothing to write home about. About 3 times what this rifle was capable of producing on any give day. He was pretty cocky after that and then I asked his wife if she wanted to shoot the rifle. Before she answered he interupted saying there was no way she could shoot this big of a rifle. She did look a little intimidated for sure. What they did not know is that I also had packed nearly the identical rifle but chambered in 338 AM instead of the 375 AM. I unpacked that 338 AM and looked the lady square in the eye and told her I would never set up a new shooter on any rifle that would hurt them in any way and that if she concentrated on my instructions and on the reticle and target she would be slappin steel right off the bat. Her first shot was the obvious close your eyes and yank the trigger that is common the first time most shoot these rifles. Her first shot landed about 5 yards low. I then looked at her and said, now you know there is nothing to worry about from recoil and you can just relax and shoot the rifle. She agreed with her boyfriend sneering in the background. Her next shot clipped the bottom edge of the 20" gong. I asked her if the shot felt good and she said yes so I gave the scope 3/4 moa up in adjustment. Her next shot was dang near dead center. Third shot was about 5" right of center and her last shot was about 8" low and 5" to the right. Total size of the group for the last three shots was right around 9.5" ctc. Not to bad at 1300 yards. The boyfriend saw this group that made his look pretty weak and said, well, If I were shooting that rifle I would have shot a much better group as well. Doing everything he could to belittle his wife instead of building her confidence with praise. Knowing the type of guy this was I replied, "All right, your wife has done the hard work, we know the hold" and handed him three rounds, said "Its time to put up or shot up!" He just kind of looked at me with a timid look but the look his wife was giving him was priceless. One of those, ya shot up and prove it looks!!! He settled into the rifle. First shot was 5" high of center. Second shot was about 8" low and 5" to the right and his last shot was on the right edge of the gong, around 9" off center. 14-15" ctc group. Certainly not terrible at 1300 yards but dramatically larger then his wifes group. He became much more humble after that. My point for this story is simple. The future of our shooting sports, our heritage, our way of life with firearms has very little to do with thos of us that are shooting right now. Obviously we have to support the shooting sports and put people into office that will do the same. But the most critical way we have to save out way of living is to get women involved in our way of living. They will be the ones to save our sport, not us. New shooters are the key, make or female, does not matter but every lady we can get involved passionately in the shooting sports is a huge boost to our future. So if you have a little girl or a girlfriend or a wife, take them out shooting, be patient, be supporting, in no way should you EVER be negative with them, always supportive. Never have then shoot anything that may scare them or hurt them, ITS NOT FUNNY and it ****es me off when I see guys doing this. That is the best way to ruin a lady from shooting for the rest of her life and as such, you have just lost a supporter of the shooting sports thanks to their DUMB *** BOYFRIENDS OR HUSBANDS. The rifle we put together for Ricks daughter is not a heavy recoiling rifle, especially for an experienced little shooter and I know Rick will pay very close attention to limit her shooting to prevent any flinch from occuring. As she groups up even more, the rifle will turn into a real ***** cat. It was designed well for its design goal so recoil is not a real issue. Anyway, enough rant on the subject. [/QUOTE]
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