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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 594907" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>I just put a mic on a D64 and it was 1.778". RDM is right about the effect on game. These bullets will not blow up and give you a softball size+ hole on the back side. They may run a little ways pouring blood out both sides but the insides will be mush. You will not get as much meat damage or ruin the hides with huge exit wounds.</p><p> </p><p>If you are down in Thermopolis sometime let me know and you can stop by and see the ones I have. I have some 225 grain and the D64, D65 252 grain. Back in the summer I was putting three shot groups through an elk sillouette at 1600 yards with these bullets. I have shot the 300 SMK's since I was testing them before they were released back in the 90's. These bullets are as accurate with similar bc.s however with much less recoil and flatter trajectory. The velocity difference with the 225 grain bullet overcomes the higher bc of the 300 smk to virtually equalize a 10 mph wind to 1200 yards and I don't hunt further than that. I shoot the 225 CE at 3510 fps and the 300 smk at 3060 fps out of my 338-378 wby. Run that on JBM and you see why I changed to the 225. My rifles only weigh around 10 pounds scoped and the 300's were rocking me pretty good. The 225's I do not notice. The 252's have about the same bc as the 300 smk but faster and less recoil. </p><p> </p><p>Also I have some 30 caliber CE bullets here. Yesterday I was shooting the 180 grain c21 .6 bc or so bullet over 3500 fps out of my 28" 300 RUM. Run that on JBM and you see why I shoot it instead of the 210 berger now. My accuracy loads with the 210 berger and 208 amax were mostly in the high 3100's fps. At the ranges I hunt the 180 wins. If I were shooting targets at a mile I would shoot the 210 berger. I am testing actual bc's with 1000 yard drops over the next week with several bullets out of my 300 RUM's and the Mcmillan EOL Outdoorsman rifle. I am weather dependent right now getting out to my long range shooting spot but by spring should have some actual bc's on several bullets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 594907, member: 505"] I just put a mic on a D64 and it was 1.778". RDM is right about the effect on game. These bullets will not blow up and give you a softball size+ hole on the back side. They may run a little ways pouring blood out both sides but the insides will be mush. You will not get as much meat damage or ruin the hides with huge exit wounds. If you are down in Thermopolis sometime let me know and you can stop by and see the ones I have. I have some 225 grain and the D64, D65 252 grain. Back in the summer I was putting three shot groups through an elk sillouette at 1600 yards with these bullets. I have shot the 300 SMK's since I was testing them before they were released back in the 90's. These bullets are as accurate with similar bc.s however with much less recoil and flatter trajectory. The velocity difference with the 225 grain bullet overcomes the higher bc of the 300 smk to virtually equalize a 10 mph wind to 1200 yards and I don't hunt further than that. I shoot the 225 CE at 3510 fps and the 300 smk at 3060 fps out of my 338-378 wby. Run that on JBM and you see why I changed to the 225. My rifles only weigh around 10 pounds scoped and the 300's were rocking me pretty good. The 225's I do not notice. The 252's have about the same bc as the 300 smk but faster and less recoil. Also I have some 30 caliber CE bullets here. Yesterday I was shooting the 180 grain c21 .6 bc or so bullet over 3500 fps out of my 28" 300 RUM. Run that on JBM and you see why I shoot it instead of the 210 berger now. My accuracy loads with the 210 berger and 208 amax were mostly in the high 3100's fps. At the ranges I hunt the 180 wins. If I were shooting targets at a mile I would shoot the 210 berger. I am testing actual bc's with 1000 yard drops over the next week with several bullets out of my 300 RUM's and the Mcmillan EOL Outdoorsman rifle. I am weather dependent right now getting out to my long range shooting spot but by spring should have some actual bc's on several bullets. [/QUOTE]
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