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<blockquote data-quote="Don Ward" data-source="post: 311449" data-attributes="member: 19118"><p>MR:</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for moving this subject, we did have the other thread pretty well hijacked. You obviously know your stuff and are confident in the system you use. I won't be trying to convert anyone and here at GreyBull we know as well as anyone that there's more than one method at arriving on target at extended ranges. </p><p> </p><p>Here's an example of a "rule of thumb" we use when dialing with our drop compensating turrets.</p><p> </p><p>The actual percentages and numbers can be load specific so a shooter needs to know what their performance is to come up with similar mental cheat sheets.</p><p> </p><p>With a 30deg incline dialing to 10% under the actual range puts us on target.</p><p> </p><p>Example</p><p> </p><p>800 yard shot 30deg incline</p><p>We dial 800 - 10% (720)</p><p>That usually puts us within a click of what the actual drop is for the shot.</p><p> </p><p>A true 30deg incline is steeper than most folks usually think and most shots we encounter are far less than that.</p><p> </p><p>If I'm at the upper or lower general limit for a dial, (about 3000' away from what the dial was built for with high performing load) I know that at 600 - 700 yards a click puts me right where the data would and at 800 - 900 it's 2 clicks. Thats a very load specific mental note that will vary greatly based on an individuals load. </p><p> </p><p>Thats less than a minute which can be tough to shoot well enough to notice under field conditions. If the temp is higher at the lower elevation, which happens alot (and visa versa at higher elevations), the differenence is smaller or almost nonexistent.</p><p> </p><p>For us, most of our shots end up under 20 deg incline, within 3000' up or down from what our dial is set for and within 30 deg of the temp it's set for. With those conditions, dialing directly to the yardage makes for a lot of filled tags. The speed of doing it this way and doing the wind in the reticle with no dialing is a big plus for us. </p><p> </p><p>Most of our customers get a dial to match their home elevation and a dial for hunting the west. For that 4500' $tone $heep hunt or that 12,500' 15deg marco polo hunt, most guys spend another $100 on a turret that matches the area.</p><p> </p><p>I'm off to pack in for a high country muley hunt to help spot for buddy. We'll be at 11,500'+ and he has a 7000' turret...hmmmm<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Don Ward, post: 311449, member: 19118"] MR: Thanks for moving this subject, we did have the other thread pretty well hijacked. You obviously know your stuff and are confident in the system you use. I won't be trying to convert anyone and here at GreyBull we know as well as anyone that there's more than one method at arriving on target at extended ranges. Here's an example of a "rule of thumb" we use when dialing with our drop compensating turrets. The actual percentages and numbers can be load specific so a shooter needs to know what their performance is to come up with similar mental cheat sheets. With a 30deg incline dialing to 10% under the actual range puts us on target. Example 800 yard shot 30deg incline We dial 800 - 10% (720) That usually puts us within a click of what the actual drop is for the shot. A true 30deg incline is steeper than most folks usually think and most shots we encounter are far less than that. If I'm at the upper or lower general limit for a dial, (about 3000' away from what the dial was built for with high performing load) I know that at 600 - 700 yards a click puts me right where the data would and at 800 - 900 it's 2 clicks. Thats a very load specific mental note that will vary greatly based on an individuals load. Thats less than a minute which can be tough to shoot well enough to notice under field conditions. If the temp is higher at the lower elevation, which happens alot (and visa versa at higher elevations), the differenence is smaller or almost nonexistent. For us, most of our shots end up under 20 deg incline, within 3000' up or down from what our dial is set for and within 30 deg of the temp it's set for. With those conditions, dialing directly to the yardage makes for a lot of filled tags. The speed of doing it this way and doing the wind in the reticle with no dialing is a big plus for us. Most of our customers get a dial to match their home elevation and a dial for hunting the west. For that 4500' $tone $heep hunt or that 12,500' 15deg marco polo hunt, most guys spend another $100 on a turret that matches the area. I'm off to pack in for a high country muley hunt to help spot for buddy. We'll be at 11,500'+ and he has a 7000' turret...hmmmm:rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
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