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Copper Monos - How to choose the right weight(and maybe caliber)?
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<blockquote data-quote="fordy" data-source="post: 2626264" data-attributes="member: 120504"><p>Gday franko21</p><p>Here is a good example of a pill that won't step on too many toes around here ( well I hope ) but it's no different than so many other pills that use the same process they all have velocity windows ( every pill does regardless of type ) that are no where near what the company puts out</p><p></p><p>It's a gpa pill</p><p>Sorry for the state of them but it's a great example of a velocity window</p><p>The flat meplat one was boring on recovery as this pill @ these impact velocities 2900 approx was incredibly consistent as a lot of the pills do today</p><p>Now I could only get these pills to impact @ slightly above 3200 but preformance was very good there also & I suspect it would do well to 3500 maybe 3600 but it will more than likely start to fail above this mark due to the type of copper used so let's use 3600 as a potential ball park figure but I also accept I may be wrong as only theory & I don't like theories</p><p>Now the other end of this window</p><p>The bad one this was taken out of a red deer on fairly hard quarter away</p><p>This particular pill ( 2320 impact approx ) impacted ( aiming far leg to get to vitals ) then the pill never made it to them as done a U turn & ended in the opposite side back leg</p><p>Now this is one of the worst I've seen in a shedding type pill but definitely not the only one ( or type that does this ) as once that flat meplat is altered ( not a angled meplat from bone impact as that's a different set of outcomes ) you get weird stuff happening that comprises the results we expect & are better off steering clear imo I'm not saying they won't kill I'm trying to stop the 1% from rearing it's ugly head & this one unless a follow up shot was taken that animal was gone to suffer a slow death</p><p></p><p>I've replicated this on so many brands it's stupid but a very low % of the total shots taken but it happens & a few resistances it happens with way more consistency & one of the things I pay the utmost attention to</p><p></p><p>This gpa pill showed the altered meplat form from the flat one around 2400</p><p></p><p>So this pill has a velocity window of around 1200 imo yes it will kill outside of these but I don't like bingo raffles like stated previously but in reality I only had a 800 fps impact window & that basically made this pill useless to my hunting ranges after many many thousands the penny finally dropped & I moved on</p><p></p><p>I've used a huge variety of brands & the one trait so consistent in terminal performance dropping off is when that pill goes from it's good form to a secondary you may want to search for another pill if it steps outside of the velocity window that you'll take game @ or wait to see if your number Is called out , that's solely upto the individual</p><p></p><p>I'll leave you with this</p><p>Once you get that part worked out start looking @ your actual velocity impacts & break those down into sub categories & now your getting into the depths of some serious terminal results</p><p></p><p>Thanks for taking the time to read & ask stay safe & shoot straight</p><p>Hope it helps </p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fordy, post: 2626264, member: 120504"] Gday franko21 Here is a good example of a pill that won’t step on too many toes around here ( well I hope ) but it’s no different than so many other pills that use the same process they all have velocity windows ( every pill does regardless of type ) that are no where near what the company puts out It’s a gpa pill Sorry for the state of them but it’s a great example of a velocity window The flat meplat one was boring on recovery as this pill @ these impact velocities 2900 approx was incredibly consistent as a lot of the pills do today Now I could only get these pills to impact @ slightly above 3200 but preformance was very good there also & I suspect it would do well to 3500 maybe 3600 but it will more than likely start to fail above this mark due to the type of copper used so let’s use 3600 as a potential ball park figure but I also accept I may be wrong as only theory & I don’t like theories Now the other end of this window The bad one this was taken out of a red deer on fairly hard quarter away This particular pill ( 2320 impact approx ) impacted ( aiming far leg to get to vitals ) then the pill never made it to them as done a U turn & ended in the opposite side back leg Now this is one of the worst I’ve seen in a shedding type pill but definitely not the only one ( or type that does this ) as once that flat meplat is altered ( not a angled meplat from bone impact as that’s a different set of outcomes ) you get weird stuff happening that comprises the results we expect & are better off steering clear imo I’m not saying they won’t kill I’m trying to stop the 1% from rearing it’s ugly head & this one unless a follow up shot was taken that animal was gone to suffer a slow death I’ve replicated this on so many brands it’s stupid but a very low % of the total shots taken but it happens & a few resistances it happens with way more consistency & one of the things I pay the utmost attention to This gpa pill showed the altered meplat form from the flat one around 2400 So this pill has a velocity window of around 1200 imo yes it will kill outside of these but I don’t like bingo raffles like stated previously but in reality I only had a 800 fps impact window & that basically made this pill useless to my hunting ranges after many many thousands the penny finally dropped & I moved on I’ve used a huge variety of brands & the one trait so consistent in terminal performance dropping off is when that pill goes from it’s good form to a secondary you may want to search for another pill if it steps outside of the velocity window that you’ll take game @ or wait to see if your number Is called out , that’s solely upto the individual I’ll leave you with this Once you get that part worked out start looking @ your actual velocity impacts & break those down into sub categories & now your getting into the depths of some serious terminal results Thanks for taking the time to read & ask stay safe & shoot straight Hope it helps Cheers [/QUOTE]
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