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Copper Monos - How to choose the right weight(and maybe caliber)?
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<blockquote data-quote="fordy" data-source="post: 2623825" data-attributes="member: 120504"><p>Gday lou</p><p></p><p>Thanks </p><p>I'll watch the link fully later when time permits but it will be hard to pin down a location but definitely sounds interesting & love to swap notes with those guys but I'm also a realist </p><p></p><p>The old failsafe definitely worked a treat on big critters just struggled on little critters with a lot of small wound channels especially once velocity dropped off but I could never get them to 4 k & I actually think they may have struggled a little on those big knuckles <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤷♂️" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" /> Just assuming off results I've witnessed </p><p></p><p>Some cool looking shank bulges occurred with the failsafe I'll see if I can find them</p><p></p><p>On a lot of buff culling , head , neck or high shoulder spine shots were the norm ( choppers a bit different ) & a 308 used in this manner with a stout pill usually gets the job done with fairly common results ( not advocating a 308 is adequate) these critters are extremely hard to put down with non cns shots then inferior pills add to the excitement <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😜" title="Winking face with tongue :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61c.png" data-shortname=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" /></p><p>Move to a hunting scenario & the dynamics change somewhat & that once in a lifetime opportunity is only a small window in the bamboo or cane grass will sort out the good from the bad quickly & I don't mind admitting I've been scared $h-tless tracking a wounded bull & all hell broke loose in a split second</p><p>I just don't ever want to get into that position ever again it's so scary </p><p></p><p>The hard thing is to get a pill to handle such a wide variety of game I can encounter in a few hours let alone days a lot like in Africa & guess you guys if in big bear country</p><p>& I'm never one for substitution of a lesser terminal pill just in case but now I've found a pill I don't need to run a solid ( still like solids though) or worry about oh that's a bit close keep off bone or even I need the critter to square up a bit more etc as hammers have the best makeup of any pill kinda the ballistic tip initial impact & a woodleigh hydro penertration </p><p>Yep they are my cuppa tea , other peoples not so much which is cool & until they can show me a better mousetrap ( I also don't trust the market hype or shinny new toy same as I treated hammers initially ( yes I was very wary ) I watch other respectable peoples results & ask questions & why I ended up joining my home forum then I'll delve a little deeper & watch the fur calculator work out what's going on ) today I know what number 1 is but no closed mind here & a testing I continue to do just to confirm a little more </p><p></p><p>So many good pills on the market today that will serve the consumer well but if it's that little bit more insurance one would like in the bank , there is only one pill so far that covers more bases across the largest velocity window than any other ( I also still search for the holy grail so come on Steve pull your finger out & make that magic bullet <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😜" title="Winking face with tongue :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61c.png" data-shortname=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" /> ) </p><p>IMO of course & it maybe I'm just that terrible shot who needs insurance <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤷♂️" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" /> on the squeeze of the trigger As I have trouble reading wind , holding steady off hand , being able to brace myself against a gusty wind , controlling my breathing or heart beat after a physical climb or walk ,cold fingers or sweaty palms trying to get a steady rest on uneven ground among a few other things that this muppet has in the field I call hunting</p><p>So ea to their own </p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fordy, post: 2623825, member: 120504"] Gday lou Thanks I’ll watch the link fully later when time permits but it will be hard to pin down a location but definitely sounds interesting & love to swap notes with those guys but I’m also a realist The old failsafe definitely worked a treat on big critters just struggled on little critters with a lot of small wound channels especially once velocity dropped off but I could never get them to 4 k & I actually think they may have struggled a little on those big knuckles 🤷♂️ Just assuming off results I’ve witnessed Some cool looking shank bulges occurred with the failsafe I’ll see if I can find them On a lot of buff culling , head , neck or high shoulder spine shots were the norm ( choppers a bit different ) & a 308 used in this manner with a stout pill usually gets the job done with fairly common results ( not advocating a 308 is adequate) these critters are extremely hard to put down with non cns shots then inferior pills add to the excitement 😜 Move to a hunting scenario & the dynamics change somewhat & that once in a lifetime opportunity is only a small window in the bamboo or cane grass will sort out the good from the bad quickly & I don’t mind admitting I’ve been scared $h-tless tracking a wounded bull & all hell broke loose in a split second I just don’t ever want to get into that position ever again it’s so scary The hard thing is to get a pill to handle such a wide variety of game I can encounter in a few hours let alone days a lot like in Africa & guess you guys if in big bear country & I’m never one for substitution of a lesser terminal pill just in case but now I’ve found a pill I don’t need to run a solid ( still like solids though) or worry about oh that’s a bit close keep off bone or even I need the critter to square up a bit more etc as hammers have the best makeup of any pill kinda the ballistic tip initial impact & a woodleigh hydro penertration Yep they are my cuppa tea , other peoples not so much which is cool & until they can show me a better mousetrap ( I also don’t trust the market hype or shinny new toy same as I treated hammers initially ( yes I was very wary ) I watch other respectable peoples results & ask questions & why I ended up joining my home forum then I’ll delve a little deeper & watch the fur calculator work out what’s going on ) today I know what number 1 is but no closed mind here & a testing I continue to do just to confirm a little more So many good pills on the market today that will serve the consumer well but if it’s that little bit more insurance one would like in the bank , there is only one pill so far that covers more bases across the largest velocity window than any other ( I also still search for the holy grail so come on Steve pull your finger out & make that magic bullet 😜 ) IMO of course & it maybe I’m just that terrible shot who needs insurance 🤷♂️ on the squeeze of the trigger As I have trouble reading wind , holding steady off hand , being able to brace myself against a gusty wind , controlling my breathing or heart beat after a physical climb or walk ,cold fingers or sweaty palms trying to get a steady rest on uneven ground among a few other things that this muppet has in the field I call hunting So ea to their own Cheers [/QUOTE]
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