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<blockquote data-quote="SBruce" data-source="post: 540598" data-attributes="member: 21068"><p>They wouldn't range anywhere near the advertised distances.</p><p> </p><p>I was comparing my first one to an old 1200 model, and the 1200 would range further on small targets, it would also do it quicker with fewer attempts. Sure, the 1600 would range further on large flat surfaces or something reflective, but I don't hunt stop signs and buildings or large trees and large cut banks. The 2nd one seems to work like it should though.</p><p> </p><p>There's some other threads here on this site that discuss the issues with rangefinders, a search should bring up tons of info for you. Here are some:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f23/rangefinder-field-test-swarovski-8x30-laser-guide-vs-leica-crf-1600-rangemaster-73650/" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f23/rangefinder-field-test-swarovski-8x30-laser-guide-vs-leica-crf-1600-rangemaster-73650/</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f18/very-happy-leica-so-74278/" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f18/very-happy-leica-so-74278/</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/leica-crf-1600-a-74781/" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/leica-crf-1600-a-74781/</a></p><p> </p><p>Yes, the scan mode helps speed things up, but it only helps. The 1600's are much slower than the 1200's. Only reason I can think of is the extra calculations it's trying to do. Even with this feature turned off, it probably takes twice as long to get a reading as the old 1200 model did.</p><p> </p><p>Ranging objects nearby can work on a steep slope that is opposite of you, but on relatively flat ground; the sagebrush you're ranging that "appears" to be next to the animal, could really easily be 25-50 yds further. Even at "short" ranges of say 600 yds, a 25yd error on the range can mean a poor hit/near miss on an antelope. This goes back to the benefit of small beam divergence too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SBruce, post: 540598, member: 21068"] They wouldn't range anywhere near the advertised distances. I was comparing my first one to an old 1200 model, and the 1200 would range further on small targets, it would also do it quicker with fewer attempts. Sure, the 1600 would range further on large flat surfaces or something reflective, but I don't hunt stop signs and buildings or large trees and large cut banks. The 2nd one seems to work like it should though. There's some other threads here on this site that discuss the issues with rangefinders, a search should bring up tons of info for you. Here are some: [URL]http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f23/rangefinder-field-test-swarovski-8x30-laser-guide-vs-leica-crf-1600-rangemaster-73650/[/URL] [URL]http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f18/very-happy-leica-so-74278/[/URL] [URL]http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/leica-crf-1600-a-74781/[/URL] Yes, the scan mode helps speed things up, but it only helps. The 1600's are much slower than the 1200's. Only reason I can think of is the extra calculations it's trying to do. Even with this feature turned off, it probably takes twice as long to get a reading as the old 1200 model did. Ranging objects nearby can work on a steep slope that is opposite of you, but on relatively flat ground; the sagebrush you're ranging that "appears" to be next to the animal, could really easily be 25-50 yds further. Even at "short" ranges of say 600 yds, a 25yd error on the range can mean a poor hit/near miss on an antelope. This goes back to the benefit of small beam divergence too. [/QUOTE]
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