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<blockquote data-quote="boomtube" data-source="post: 387104" data-attributes="member: 9215"><p>" If the OP had stated the cal. we'd automatically know they would be resonably new manufactured dies as the cartridge is reasonably new. As for the press and dies, press first, is it a 'cheaper' brand with weak linkage that might be springing instead of transfering the motion and power as it should. The dies, are they an old, off brand, that came out of a gunshow (gunshows and pawn shops seem to be where some items go after they no longer work like they are supposed to). More information can <strong>never </strong>be a bad thing. Hope you get it sorted out BBJ. </p><p>"</p><p> </p><p>Ted/BBJ, I'm old but I think <u>maybe</u> I've sorted your comments into four points. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Lets see if I get it now.</p><p> </p><p>1. Old and/or off brand dies were made to exactly the same SAAMI tolerances as newer ones and they are adjusted exactly like new ones ... and I can actually remember that! In fact, I still have a small pile of those old and "off brand" dies. They haven't dry rotted, they still look and work fine, exactly as they did some 45 years ago! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>2. Press spring and wear are all easily compensated for with proper die adjusment, isn't it? (Well, <u>mine</u> are!)</p><p> </p><p>3. No cartridge, new or old, is reloaded with specific or different die adjusments from any other of it's general type.</p><p> </p><p>4. More "information" means nothing if it's irrelivant information, does it? lightbulb</p><p> </p><p>So, all that irrelivant stuff you mention doesn't matter a bit to the question. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Elk and Bigbuckjeff, problems in resizing belted cases is sometimes caused by the die maker not making the upper interiour of the die body as long and, occasionally, not as small in the lower diameter as it should be. Understand that neither our die nor chamber specifications are a given specific measurement, both have a tolerance range and everything within that range is fully "in tolerance." That usually works fine, BUT if we get a smallish chamber and a largish die we may not quite be able to make it work and it's not a brand or price thing, it's just standard manufactoring tolerances stacking against you. Seems most die makers will replace the die if the owner lets them know about it. </p><p> </p><p>Otherwise, take a look at Larry Willlis' "Innovative Technogies" (Goggle it) collet sizing die for belted rounds, it's made for dealing with exactly that problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boomtube, post: 387104, member: 9215"] " If the OP had stated the cal. we'd automatically know they would be resonably new manufactured dies as the cartridge is reasonably new. As for the press and dies, press first, is it a 'cheaper' brand with weak linkage that might be springing instead of transfering the motion and power as it should. The dies, are they an old, off brand, that came out of a gunshow (gunshows and pawn shops seem to be where some items go after they no longer work like they are supposed to). More information can [B]never [/B]be a bad thing. Hope you get it sorted out BBJ. " Ted/BBJ, I'm old but I think [U]maybe[/U] I've sorted your comments into four points. :) Lets see if I get it now. 1. Old and/or off brand dies were made to exactly the same SAAMI tolerances as newer ones and they are adjusted exactly like new ones ... and I can actually remember that! In fact, I still have a small pile of those old and "off brand" dies. They haven't dry rotted, they still look and work fine, exactly as they did some 45 years ago! :D 2. Press spring and wear are all easily compensated for with proper die adjusment, isn't it? (Well, [U]mine[/U] are!) 3. No cartridge, new or old, is reloaded with specific or different die adjusments from any other of it's general type. 4. More "information" means nothing if it's irrelivant information, does it? lightbulb So, all that irrelivant stuff you mention doesn't matter a bit to the question. :rolleyes: Elk and Bigbuckjeff, problems in resizing belted cases is sometimes caused by the die maker not making the upper interiour of the die body as long and, occasionally, not as small in the lower diameter as it should be. Understand that neither our die nor chamber specifications are a given specific measurement, both have a tolerance range and everything within that range is fully "in tolerance." That usually works fine, BUT if we get a smallish chamber and a largish die we may not quite be able to make it work and it's not a brand or price thing, it's just standard manufactoring tolerances stacking against you. Seems most die makers will replace the die if the owner lets them know about it. Otherwise, take a look at Larry Willlis' "Innovative Technogies" (Goggle it) collet sizing die for belted rounds, it's made for dealing with exactly that problem. [/QUOTE]
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