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<blockquote data-quote="SBruce" data-source="post: 353969" data-attributes="member: 21068"><p>As a Rancher and long time Varmint Hunter............I've shot thousands of prarie dogs in the last 30 years. Majority of them with fast 22 CF's. Many, Many of them with 25-06 and light bullets. My farthest shot ever was 697 long paces with a 220 Swift. As an added bonus, I've witnessed many people shooting pasture pooches with alot of different calibers, 17's to 300's, some out to around 1500 yds.........maybe I can help.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, the bigger bullets with higher BC's will perform better at long range when it comes to trajectory and especially wind drift.</p><p>Yes, the faster we push the bullets, and the more powder being burned; the shorter the barrel life will be.</p><p>The bigger and heavier bullets cause more recoil, bigger powder charges cause more recoil..........a few hundred rounds in a day is pretty comfortable out of a fast 22. Not so much out of the 25-06, even with light bullets!!!! The 6.5's with even heavier bullets, will probably kick even more. </p><p> </p><p>I don't know how many dogs you have in the area where you'll hunt, but if there is alot.........recoil might be a consideration. It certainly is with me! I used to use the 22's for the majority of my shooting, saving the 25 for the windy days. </p><p> </p><p>Alot of VLD or "Match" type bullets are not really designed to expand on very small varmints, But if you push them fast enough, some certainly will. Alot of the bullets in the 25 caliber and bigger aren't designed to be "varmint" bullets, and a bullet that doesn't expand can make a hit "appear" to be a miss.</p><p> </p><p>Therefore, I am a proponent of the 6mm/243 calibers. Good varmint class bullets to choose from, better wind bucking ability over the fast 22's, and not as much recoil as the 25 or bigger calibers. Alot of shooting without cleaning or cooling will burn out any barrel, but keeping the MV below 3500 FPS seems to minimize barrel damage. The 6mm class of cartridges will push relatively high BC varmint bullets plenty fast enough.</p><p> </p><p>Most serious prarie dog shooters I know consider re-barreling an expected and necessary expense of "doing the job". There is also the necessary expense of components. If you want to cut cost somewhere, I'd recommend it be in the components (by using smaller calibers with less powder behind them). Because at the end of the day, your shoulder and your wallet will appreciate it alot more.</p><p> </p><p>The 6X47 Lapua is supposed to be a highly accurate, highly effecient cartridge. It is also supposedly capable of pushing "varmint class" bullet weights at very fast speeds. I am currently re-barreling my 220 Swift (after appox 5000 rounds) to a 6X47.</p><p> </p><p>Hope this helps some.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SBruce, post: 353969, member: 21068"] As a Rancher and long time Varmint Hunter............I've shot thousands of prarie dogs in the last 30 years. Majority of them with fast 22 CF's. Many, Many of them with 25-06 and light bullets. My farthest shot ever was 697 long paces with a 220 Swift. As an added bonus, I've witnessed many people shooting pasture pooches with alot of different calibers, 17's to 300's, some out to around 1500 yds.........maybe I can help. Yes, the bigger bullets with higher BC's will perform better at long range when it comes to trajectory and especially wind drift. Yes, the faster we push the bullets, and the more powder being burned; the shorter the barrel life will be. The bigger and heavier bullets cause more recoil, bigger powder charges cause more recoil..........a few hundred rounds in a day is pretty comfortable out of a fast 22. Not so much out of the 25-06, even with light bullets!!!! The 6.5's with even heavier bullets, will probably kick even more. I don't know how many dogs you have in the area where you'll hunt, but if there is alot.........recoil might be a consideration. It certainly is with me! I used to use the 22's for the majority of my shooting, saving the 25 for the windy days. Alot of VLD or "Match" type bullets are not really designed to expand on very small varmints, But if you push them fast enough, some certainly will. Alot of the bullets in the 25 caliber and bigger aren't designed to be "varmint" bullets, and a bullet that doesn't expand can make a hit "appear" to be a miss. Therefore, I am a proponent of the 6mm/243 calibers. Good varmint class bullets to choose from, better wind bucking ability over the fast 22's, and not as much recoil as the 25 or bigger calibers. Alot of shooting without cleaning or cooling will burn out any barrel, but keeping the MV below 3500 FPS seems to minimize barrel damage. The 6mm class of cartridges will push relatively high BC varmint bullets plenty fast enough. Most serious prarie dog shooters I know consider re-barreling an expected and necessary expense of "doing the job". There is also the necessary expense of components. If you want to cut cost somewhere, I'd recommend it be in the components (by using smaller calibers with less powder behind them). Because at the end of the day, your shoulder and your wallet will appreciate it alot more. The 6X47 Lapua is supposed to be a highly accurate, highly effecient cartridge. It is also supposedly capable of pushing "varmint class" bullet weights at very fast speeds. I am currently re-barreling my 220 Swift (after appox 5000 rounds) to a 6X47. Hope this helps some. [/QUOTE]
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