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CA Ridgeline vs Tikka T3x
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<blockquote data-quote="Teri Anne" data-source="post: 2316364" data-attributes="member: 118816"><p>I have two Tikka T3's 30-06 and 270. I'm an accuracy nut and like to play and make firearms shoot less than 1 MOA. I have two Winchester Model 70's that I have had for years both shoot around 3/4 MOA or less depending upon the load. The Tikka's were no challenge, they both shot less than 1 MOA out of the box. Even the Tikka T1X .22 does less than 1 MOA out of the box. So when a friend wanted to get into long range shooting (only to 600 yards) I decided that maybe it was time to try the 300 WM again and play with 1000 yard target shooting again. Instead of a Tikka I bought a Browning AB3 Hunter with a 26 inch barrel. Having previously shot a 300 WM I was very aware of it's severe recoil. Before I even fired the rifle I sent it off and had a custom muzzle brake installed. The difference in recoil is simply amazing. My .270 has more recoil than the 300 WM. <strong>OK</strong> the purpose of this missive is simply to state that there is absolutely no reason to tolerate savage recoil and sore shoulders from the magnums, and if you think it's macho or something else to do that you are sadly mistaken. I don't care how tough one thinks they are once recoil gets to a certain point no matter how good a shot you are, your accuracy will deteriorate because believe it or not, you will be expecting to get your shoulder kicked back to your butt and no matter how much concentration you pay to ignoring the upcoming kick you will be unknowingly flinching. Another thing to keep in mind is your shoulder. Shoulders are wonderful things. They allow you to move your arms, hold your rifle securely and do amazing things on the range. However and think about this a lot...a shoulder is not designed to take a beating from the front going to the rear as in rifle/shotgun recoil. It will work real well and last a long time...that is...until...you beat it up too much by subjecting it to consistent blows from a direction it was not designed to take blows from. Remember Kinetic Action. Don't necessarily have to have the butt of the firearm on the shoulder joint to cause damage. Before you poo poo this stop and think about how many of your shooting buddies are having shoulder problems and surgery. If you are active in the shooting community and know a lot of different shooters then you might notice that a lot of us who are not exactly young anymore having shoulder issues...and surprisingly it's the shoulder that you hold your rifle or shotgun against. Between newer style recoil pads, stocks with different designs to help reduce recoil and especially muzzle brakes there is absolutely no need to beat up your shoulder to the point that surgery is needed. Wake up and smell the roses. You don't have to get beat up when shooting. Use technology as it is currently available to keep your body strong and not being beaten into submission.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Teri Anne, post: 2316364, member: 118816"] I have two Tikka T3's 30-06 and 270. I'm an accuracy nut and like to play and make firearms shoot less than 1 MOA. I have two Winchester Model 70's that I have had for years both shoot around 3/4 MOA or less depending upon the load. The Tikka's were no challenge, they both shot less than 1 MOA out of the box. Even the Tikka T1X .22 does less than 1 MOA out of the box. So when a friend wanted to get into long range shooting (only to 600 yards) I decided that maybe it was time to try the 300 WM again and play with 1000 yard target shooting again. Instead of a Tikka I bought a Browning AB3 Hunter with a 26 inch barrel. Having previously shot a 300 WM I was very aware of it's severe recoil. Before I even fired the rifle I sent it off and had a custom muzzle brake installed. The difference in recoil is simply amazing. My .270 has more recoil than the 300 WM. [B]OK[/B] the purpose of this missive is simply to state that there is absolutely no reason to tolerate savage recoil and sore shoulders from the magnums, and if you think it's macho or something else to do that you are sadly mistaken. I don't care how tough one thinks they are once recoil gets to a certain point no matter how good a shot you are, your accuracy will deteriorate because believe it or not, you will be expecting to get your shoulder kicked back to your butt and no matter how much concentration you pay to ignoring the upcoming kick you will be unknowingly flinching. Another thing to keep in mind is your shoulder. Shoulders are wonderful things. They allow you to move your arms, hold your rifle securely and do amazing things on the range. However and think about this a lot...a shoulder is not designed to take a beating from the front going to the rear as in rifle/shotgun recoil. It will work real well and last a long time...that is...until...you beat it up too much by subjecting it to consistent blows from a direction it was not designed to take blows from. Remember Kinetic Action. Don't necessarily have to have the butt of the firearm on the shoulder joint to cause damage. Before you poo poo this stop and think about how many of your shooting buddies are having shoulder problems and surgery. If you are active in the shooting community and know a lot of different shooters then you might notice that a lot of us who are not exactly young anymore having shoulder issues...and surprisingly it's the shoulder that you hold your rifle or shotgun against. Between newer style recoil pads, stocks with different designs to help reduce recoil and especially muzzle brakes there is absolutely no need to beat up your shoulder to the point that surgery is needed. Wake up and smell the roses. You don't have to get beat up when shooting. Use technology as it is currently available to keep your body strong and not being beaten into submission. [/QUOTE]
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