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Burris 34mm Signature Rings Fiasco- BEWARE
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<blockquote data-quote="LDHunter" data-source="post: 1449911" data-attributes="member: 105"><p>I've been using Burris Signature rings since they were introduced and recently starting buying the XTR versions and LOVE them. </p><p></p><p>Although I've never owned a scope with a 34mm tube I'll share my experiences anyway.</p><p></p><p>I've NEVER had even one problem with any Burris rings BUT have had several scopes that didn't like to be compressed very much near the erector controls. I'm not sure I can remember the brands of those scopes because I haven't had that problem in the last few years but I keep buying better and better optics as my eyes age... LOL</p><p></p><p>I never liked Burris scopes but my experience with them was admittedly very limited. I think the problems the OP reported are scope related but I'll also share a suspicion. I think that some scopes are fragile in the tubes and that problem can be exacerbated by Signature rings. I think the clamping they subject the scope to is slightly uneven due to the floating plastic inserts and that might be affecting some fragile scopes but isn't evident on scopes that have sturdier tubes and/or erectors. </p><p></p><p>That's just a theory backed up with a lot of trial and error and moving scopes around a lot and using several different brands over the years.</p><p></p><p>My Leupold Mark 4 scopes and my Nightforce scopes seem to be so bulletproof that I could probably mount them with chain binders and they'd be fine. Most other scopes I have around here are a bit more sensitive and I try to stay away from the rings being very close to the erectors and overtightening. </p><p></p><p>Just one man's opinion that has tried to learn from his many mistakes over many many years of being too bullheaded to ever give up in the pursuit of accuracy.</p><p></p><p>By the way... I've never used a torque wrench to mount scopes but I DO own two different inch pound wrenches and use them for torquing action screws religiously. When I do tighten scope ring screws I cross torque until every screw "crinks" just right and the same as the others. That can take a lot of time and I try to be patient. I also retighten after the first couple groups I fire after mounting the scope and then about 100 rounds later although that seems to be completely unnecessary .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LDHunter, post: 1449911, member: 105"] I've been using Burris Signature rings since they were introduced and recently starting buying the XTR versions and LOVE them. Although I've never owned a scope with a 34mm tube I'll share my experiences anyway. I've NEVER had even one problem with any Burris rings BUT have had several scopes that didn't like to be compressed very much near the erector controls. I'm not sure I can remember the brands of those scopes because I haven't had that problem in the last few years but I keep buying better and better optics as my eyes age... LOL I never liked Burris scopes but my experience with them was admittedly very limited. I think the problems the OP reported are scope related but I'll also share a suspicion. I think that some scopes are fragile in the tubes and that problem can be exacerbated by Signature rings. I think the clamping they subject the scope to is slightly uneven due to the floating plastic inserts and that might be affecting some fragile scopes but isn't evident on scopes that have sturdier tubes and/or erectors. That's just a theory backed up with a lot of trial and error and moving scopes around a lot and using several different brands over the years. My Leupold Mark 4 scopes and my Nightforce scopes seem to be so bulletproof that I could probably mount them with chain binders and they'd be fine. Most other scopes I have around here are a bit more sensitive and I try to stay away from the rings being very close to the erectors and overtightening. Just one man's opinion that has tried to learn from his many mistakes over many many years of being too bullheaded to ever give up in the pursuit of accuracy. By the way... I've never used a torque wrench to mount scopes but I DO own two different inch pound wrenches and use them for torquing action screws religiously. When I do tighten scope ring screws I cross torque until every screw "crinks" just right and the same as the others. That can take a lot of time and I try to be patient. I also retighten after the first couple groups I fire after mounting the scope and then about 100 rounds later although that seems to be completely unnecessary . [/QUOTE]
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