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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 1581246" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>Okay<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />! My feelings on bump stocks is that I really do not care about them one way or the other. I do not see a particular need or particular niche that they fill. I am from a long time family of hunters shooters and law enforcement (sure that you have that one figured out<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />), and usually I will get in trouble when black guns become part of the topic after dinner. There was a quote on one of the posts on this thread,<em> "That's a hill that I prefer not to die on,"</em> or, <em>"That's a hornet's nest that I prefer not to kick!!" "IF" </em>all of the military style rifles were removed from the face of the earth I wouldn't be too concerned or lose any sleep over it. However if one likes to shoot and one possess military style weapons, and those weapon and the right to possess them and guaranteed/protected under the second amendment, then <u><em>no one</em></u> should have the right to prevent them from having them to fulfill their own personal agenda, or their own political agenda. To me it is not any different than allowing individual or group/s with a personal interest being empowered to where they can selectively enforce the 4th amendment. By this I mean where the individual/groups are empowered in deciding whose house or whose residence gets searched and whose residence does not get searched. Sort of like some people get treated more equally than others!! For me that is what is wrong with politics and political power in our country. My concern is that with the anti-gun movement is taking away (trying to take away) or dissolving the 2nd amendment totally. I further fear that this is only the beginning of dissolving the entire US Constitution. The experience with the anti's is that given an inch they take a mile. The dems have a political agenda to pass strict gun control; disarm the country. In doing so making everyone disenfranchised so they can ply their own political/socialistic plans in enacted. Whether he made the statement or not may be disputable, however<u> the message certainly is histor</u>y,<em> "Adolf Hitler, <u>"To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens."</u></em> I feel that they are using people's anger/s, passions and fears to promote their agenda. Right now the anti gun lobby has our high school students organized while promoting their political gun control agendas. People are misinformed, being led to believe that removing all firearms will prevent all mass killings in our school, work places and places where we assemble. One of the most destructive mass killing was the Oklahoma bombing where a <em>van, fertilizer</em> and <em>diesel fuel</em> did the carnage. The blast killed <strong>168</strong> people, including <strong>19</strong> children. More than <strong>500</strong> people were injured. Further misinformation is that we need to pass stricter and more stringent gun control laws. First of all we already have gun control laws on the books in every state, they are just not enforced. People are misled to believing that anyone can go into a gun show and purchase a firearm without a background check, again not true. I'm rambling on here, and my feelings are that I really do not have any feelings about bumpstocks. I do however have concerns about how the 2nd amendment is being attacked and water down because of false information and political agendas. And.......this is MHO!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 1581246, member: 69192"] Okay;)! My feelings on bump stocks is that I really do not care about them one way or the other. I do not see a particular need or particular niche that they fill. I am from a long time family of hunters shooters and law enforcement (sure that you have that one figured out:rolleyes:), and usually I will get in trouble when black guns become part of the topic after dinner. There was a quote on one of the posts on this thread,[I] "That's a hill that I prefer not to die on,"[/I] or, [I]"That's a hornet's nest that I prefer not to kick!!" "IF" [/I]all of the military style rifles were removed from the face of the earth I wouldn't be too concerned or lose any sleep over it. However if one likes to shoot and one possess military style weapons, and those weapon and the right to possess them and guaranteed/protected under the second amendment, then [U][I]no one[/I][/U] should have the right to prevent them from having them to fulfill their own personal agenda, or their own political agenda. To me it is not any different than allowing individual or group/s with a personal interest being empowered to where they can selectively enforce the 4th amendment. By this I mean where the individual/groups are empowered in deciding whose house or whose residence gets searched and whose residence does not get searched. Sort of like some people get treated more equally than others!! For me that is what is wrong with politics and political power in our country. My concern is that with the anti-gun movement is taking away (trying to take away) or dissolving the 2nd amendment totally. I further fear that this is only the beginning of dissolving the entire US Constitution. The experience with the anti's is that given an inch they take a mile. The dems have a political agenda to pass strict gun control; disarm the country. In doing so making everyone disenfranchised so they can ply their own political/socialistic plans in enacted. Whether he made the statement or not may be disputable, however[U] the message certainly is histor[/U]y,[I] "Adolf Hitler, [U]"To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens."[/U][/I] I feel that they are using people's anger/s, passions and fears to promote their agenda. Right now the anti gun lobby has our high school students organized while promoting their political gun control agendas. People are misinformed, being led to believe that removing all firearms will prevent all mass killings in our school, work places and places where we assemble. One of the most destructive mass killing was the Oklahoma bombing where a [I]van, fertilizer[/I] and [I]diesel fuel[/I] did the carnage. The blast killed [B]168[/B] people, including [B]19[/B] children. More than [B]500[/B] people were injured. Further misinformation is that we need to pass stricter and more stringent gun control laws. First of all we already have gun control laws on the books in every state, they are just not enforced. People are misled to believing that anyone can go into a gun show and purchase a firearm without a background check, again not true. I'm rambling on here, and my feelings are that I really do not have any feelings about bumpstocks. I do however have concerns about how the 2nd amendment is being attacked and water down because of false information and political agendas. And.......this is MHO!! [/QUOTE]
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