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<blockquote data-quote="Riflehunter1776" data-source="post: 1534643" data-attributes="member: 103369"><p>Bump stocks are a small issue that is a component of a greater concept.</p><p></p><p>the entire premise of our social contract (meaning, the deal between people and government, which makes government legitimate) and the constitutional republic which our founding fathers devised is that people have natural rights - which are life, liberty, and property (the pursuit of happiness) and they come from God, not government. This is enlightenment, classical liberalism 101 and it is the main theme of our Declaration of Independence, and the iron writ of our Bill of Rights.</p><p></p><p>Since God outranks human government, bureaucrats have no authority to overrule these rights. So the premise that "government gives, and government takes" is 100% opposite our founding ideals - and yes, that concept was around back in 1776 - Hobbes was the apologist for it - and our FF completely rejected it. And, incidentally, that same evil concept later evolved into into Marxism, Fascism, Soviet Marx-Leninism.... well, socialism in general.</p><p></p><p>the limiting factor to classical liberalism, as Jefferson explained, is that you cannot use your rights to infringe on the rights of others...that is the non-aggression principal. so if you mind your own business and peacefully enjoy your own liberty and property, you cannot be interfered with, and if you are, after a period of putting up with abuses until they become insufferable, it de-legitimizes the authority of government. This is why we fought a revolution to evict an intrusive, invasive government (which was nevertheless OUR OWN government) back in 1775.</p><p></p><p>So when do we reach the "boiling point" where that long train of abuses de-legitimizes government? Probably at the point where government gets uncomfortable about people talking about the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights....and when people get uncomfortable and feel that it's "seditious" to quote our founding fathers.</p><p></p><p>Merry Christmas, and God Bless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Riflehunter1776, post: 1534643, member: 103369"] Bump stocks are a small issue that is a component of a greater concept. the entire premise of our social contract (meaning, the deal between people and government, which makes government legitimate) and the constitutional republic which our founding fathers devised is that people have natural rights - which are life, liberty, and property (the pursuit of happiness) and they come from God, not government. This is enlightenment, classical liberalism 101 and it is the main theme of our Declaration of Independence, and the iron writ of our Bill of Rights. Since God outranks human government, bureaucrats have no authority to overrule these rights. So the premise that "government gives, and government takes" is 100% opposite our founding ideals - and yes, that concept was around back in 1776 - Hobbes was the apologist for it - and our FF completely rejected it. And, incidentally, that same evil concept later evolved into into Marxism, Fascism, Soviet Marx-Leninism.... well, socialism in general. the limiting factor to classical liberalism, as Jefferson explained, is that you cannot use your rights to infringe on the rights of others...that is the non-aggression principal. so if you mind your own business and peacefully enjoy your own liberty and property, you cannot be interfered with, and if you are, after a period of putting up with abuses until they become insufferable, it de-legitimizes the authority of government. This is why we fought a revolution to evict an intrusive, invasive government (which was nevertheless OUR OWN government) back in 1775. So when do we reach the "boiling point" where that long train of abuses de-legitimizes government? Probably at the point where government gets uncomfortable about people talking about the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights....and when people get uncomfortable and feel that it's "seditious" to quote our founding fathers. Merry Christmas, and God Bless. [/QUOTE]
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