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Bullets, Ballistics, and Theories Discussion Thread
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 812440" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>Your missing a couple very key parts to the picture, taking the 300 OTM at 2800fps and a 180 VLD at 3150 fps and comparing them at 1500 yards you'll see that the 300 gr bullet beats the smaller bullet in windage which will grow with more range. The bigger bullet carries weight which wins when you get out where velocity has bleed of, the sectional density for the 338 is much larger than the 180 and with that and the weight you get almost double the momentum which is what drives these big bullets through game animals and causes destruction at much farther ranges.</p><p></p><p>I have no love for the 7mm, but I dig my 270's which with the excellent bullets we have now days lets me run ballistically right with any 7mm of equal case capacity, I'll shoot an elk at 1000 yards with good conditions so fast it would make your head spin but if conditions kick up or the range gets out past a grand the 338 comes out, not so much because I don't think I can kill something past that with my 270 but the 338 give me a much larger window of error and it will give you much more feed back from the shot than a smaller cal will which lets you make decisions easier after the shot.</p><p></p><p>Another advantage the bigger rifles have is barrel life, a hopped up 7mm will have the throat changing in it and you have to stay with it to keep the ELR accuracy and consistency, the 338's tend to stay very consistent and change slower, you can focus on improving yourself and skills instead of chasing your load or finessing your rifle. The 338 give you numerous small edges that all stack up as the range grows, it's not about who whipping the most lead out there but getting every advantage you possibly can because you need it.</p><p></p><p>I'm by nature a small cal guy and I've argued the points your trying to but when you get behind the rifle and put the rounds down range with guys like Broz you flat get schooled, not by an attitude of my gun is bigger than yours but by the fact that they also have been down the same road and have the experience to know what tools to use to give them every edge they can.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 812440, member: 13632"] Your missing a couple very key parts to the picture, taking the 300 OTM at 2800fps and a 180 VLD at 3150 fps and comparing them at 1500 yards you'll see that the 300 gr bullet beats the smaller bullet in windage which will grow with more range. The bigger bullet carries weight which wins when you get out where velocity has bleed of, the sectional density for the 338 is much larger than the 180 and with that and the weight you get almost double the momentum which is what drives these big bullets through game animals and causes destruction at much farther ranges. I have no love for the 7mm, but I dig my 270's which with the excellent bullets we have now days lets me run ballistically right with any 7mm of equal case capacity, I'll shoot an elk at 1000 yards with good conditions so fast it would make your head spin but if conditions kick up or the range gets out past a grand the 338 comes out, not so much because I don't think I can kill something past that with my 270 but the 338 give me a much larger window of error and it will give you much more feed back from the shot than a smaller cal will which lets you make decisions easier after the shot. Another advantage the bigger rifles have is barrel life, a hopped up 7mm will have the throat changing in it and you have to stay with it to keep the ELR accuracy and consistency, the 338's tend to stay very consistent and change slower, you can focus on improving yourself and skills instead of chasing your load or finessing your rifle. The 338 give you numerous small edges that all stack up as the range grows, it's not about who whipping the most lead out there but getting every advantage you possibly can because you need it. I'm by nature a small cal guy and I've argued the points your trying to but when you get behind the rifle and put the rounds down range with guys like Broz you flat get schooled, not by an attitude of my gun is bigger than yours but by the fact that they also have been down the same road and have the experience to know what tools to use to give them every edge they can. [/QUOTE]
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