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Bullet lethality: energy and velocity
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1903630" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>Hard to tell, the one antelope that I hammered with the 338 and sucked everything out of it's chest just got up from a nap and was stretching when I hit him, he was clueless yet ran!</p><p>I think getting some range and muzzle brake that cast the sound differently seems to help keep especially elk from going into flight mode, watching elk take a hit in the 6-800 yard range it just looks like you hammered them compared to close range higher energy hits. </p><p></p><p>I personally never want to see an animal drop, more wrecks happen especially with elk when they hit dirt and you find nothing when you get there. The vast majority of the elk I've seen lost have been the dropped in their tracks kind. You just don't know why they dropped, you may have severed their vertebra completely blowing bullet an bone through their lungs and your gtg BUT you could be two inches high and blew the top of the spine of and they will recover. When you can see where your bullet went and you have blood coming down the side and they are doing the Berger wobble when they go down they don't recover, you can walk to that spot and there will be dead elk. </p><p>I had a conversation with a vet I know about the cleanest way to kill and ideally we would effect all three areas, cns, blood pressure and air, most cns hits are not that lethal you'll have a lot of animal live for quite some time just paralyzed which I HATE, taking the air out only takes a large hole, I've seen cow elk tip over after 45 minutes from a 3/4 Barnes hole through them, it was just a lung hit. Blood pressure seems to be the quickest death. Personally my goal is to put a bullet that opens up and frags to some extent just over the heart quartering away, this shuts down the blood to everything and blows a large hole in the densest part of the lungs deflating them. This tends to not drop them but staggers them hard and they hold their feet long enough for me to know I put a lethal shot in them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1903630, member: 13632"] Hard to tell, the one antelope that I hammered with the 338 and sucked everything out of it's chest just got up from a nap and was stretching when I hit him, he was clueless yet ran! I think getting some range and muzzle brake that cast the sound differently seems to help keep especially elk from going into flight mode, watching elk take a hit in the 6-800 yard range it just looks like you hammered them compared to close range higher energy hits. I personally never want to see an animal drop, more wrecks happen especially with elk when they hit dirt and you find nothing when you get there. The vast majority of the elk I've seen lost have been the dropped in their tracks kind. You just don't know why they dropped, you may have severed their vertebra completely blowing bullet an bone through their lungs and your gtg BUT you could be two inches high and blew the top of the spine of and they will recover. When you can see where your bullet went and you have blood coming down the side and they are doing the Berger wobble when they go down they don't recover, you can walk to that spot and there will be dead elk. I had a conversation with a vet I know about the cleanest way to kill and ideally we would effect all three areas, cns, blood pressure and air, most cns hits are not that lethal you'll have a lot of animal live for quite some time just paralyzed which I HATE, taking the air out only takes a large hole, I've seen cow elk tip over after 45 minutes from a 3/4 Barnes hole through them, it was just a lung hit. Blood pressure seems to be the quickest death. Personally my goal is to put a bullet that opens up and frags to some extent just over the heart quartering away, this shuts down the blood to everything and blows a large hole in the densest part of the lungs deflating them. This tends to not drop them but staggers them hard and they hold their feet long enough for me to know I put a lethal shot in them. [/QUOTE]
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