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<blockquote data-quote="loonie" data-source="post: 2402870" data-attributes="member: 59678"><p>Yes. Right after Berger came out with the 7mm 195 elite hunter, myself and several other's that hunt with me started shooting them in 7 Saums and 7 wsm's. Total disaster! Shoot elk standing broadside behind the shouder, 400 yard chip shots, act like nothing happened. I put 2 into a cow and she still walking. 3rd shot in the neck to put her down. Lost a few cows that were shot 2 x on good broadside shots. Some in the late hunts go 1/2 mile in deep snow. Have to get on snowmobile to go finish it off. Shot a doe 3x at 700 yards, walked behind a bush and laid down. Took 15 mins to die. Seen some other bizzare deals on some deer other people were shooting. Shot a goat in the shoulder that ran 400 yards. Heard of other people having issues too. Ater going thru this on 6 elk and several deer, i said NO More 195's on my hunts. My brother talked to Berger and they admitted that they were having issues. They sent him new bullets, but they were the same lot, so no good for hunting. we still have a bunch of those, but only use them for steel or gophers. Also had bullet failures with 180 ELD M's on elk at closer ranges , under 400 yards. Too fragile and not getting enough penetration. Work great on deer. Also a few pencil holes with 300 gr Bergers and 180 VLD's, so it does happen. And yes, they were good shots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="loonie, post: 2402870, member: 59678"] Yes. Right after Berger came out with the 7mm 195 elite hunter, myself and several other's that hunt with me started shooting them in 7 Saums and 7 wsm's. Total disaster! Shoot elk standing broadside behind the shouder, 400 yard chip shots, act like nothing happened. I put 2 into a cow and she still walking. 3rd shot in the neck to put her down. Lost a few cows that were shot 2 x on good broadside shots. Some in the late hunts go 1/2 mile in deep snow. Have to get on snowmobile to go finish it off. Shot a doe 3x at 700 yards, walked behind a bush and laid down. Took 15 mins to die. Seen some other bizzare deals on some deer other people were shooting. Shot a goat in the shoulder that ran 400 yards. Heard of other people having issues too. Ater going thru this on 6 elk and several deer, i said NO More 195's on my hunts. My brother talked to Berger and they admitted that they were having issues. They sent him new bullets, but they were the same lot, so no good for hunting. we still have a bunch of those, but only use them for steel or gophers. Also had bullet failures with 180 ELD M's on elk at closer ranges , under 400 yards. Too fragile and not getting enough penetration. Work great on deer. Also a few pencil holes with 300 gr Bergers and 180 VLD's, so it does happen. And yes, they were good shots. [/QUOTE]
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