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Bullet failure 130 grain nosler partition with 6.5 creedmoor
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<blockquote data-quote="30calyooper" data-source="post: 1530030" data-attributes="member: 107258"><p>I know a Michigan guide/hunter who has taken good-sized black bear (450+ lbs) with a 140 Partition in a 6.5 Swede so I'm thinking at that range, it could have been a case of the angle of entry resulting in less-than-optimal expansion/penetration. Partitions are notorious for NOT expanding properly when the angle is not what it should be...</p><p>To be honest we've all heard the debate about whether the Creed is a legit elk cartridge, but IMO if you like Noslers than the Accubonds will do better in the Creed. Tough enough for elk but also will expand at lower velocities and more acute angles than the partition. Might take a minor bit of tweaking to get your load down, but starting with whatever you used for the 140 partition and working it up/down a bit shouldn't be a major undertaking. I've seen good accuracy with both the 140 Accubond and the 142 Long Range Accubond in the Creed, and impressive performance on deer...so if your daughter has the patience to wait for the shot I think it's manageable. FYI, accuracy from both my 6.5 Creeds with the 142 LRAB is top-notch in the 2700-2800 range. 2700fps/142 grain bullet = right around 2300 ft-lbs of energy, so weigh that factor when you consider how much recoil her launcher will throw at her. Good bet you can get the accuracy at a lower vel, but now you've got to take a HARD look at what range is legit for the hunt. From experience, cow elk take just as much to kill humanely as do the bulls, and no lethality index of any sort can predict perfectly what it'll take for a clean kill.</p><p>When working with young hunters I have always pushed a simple concept - wait for a clean shot at a range you KNOW you can handle. 400 yards is a nice distance, but if the shooter lacks the experience to go beyond 250 then you have a great opportunity to teach her about stalking!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="30calyooper, post: 1530030, member: 107258"] I know a Michigan guide/hunter who has taken good-sized black bear (450+ lbs) with a 140 Partition in a 6.5 Swede so I'm thinking at that range, it could have been a case of the angle of entry resulting in less-than-optimal expansion/penetration. Partitions are notorious for NOT expanding properly when the angle is not what it should be... To be honest we've all heard the debate about whether the Creed is a legit elk cartridge, but IMO if you like Noslers than the Accubonds will do better in the Creed. Tough enough for elk but also will expand at lower velocities and more acute angles than the partition. Might take a minor bit of tweaking to get your load down, but starting with whatever you used for the 140 partition and working it up/down a bit shouldn't be a major undertaking. I've seen good accuracy with both the 140 Accubond and the 142 Long Range Accubond in the Creed, and impressive performance on deer...so if your daughter has the patience to wait for the shot I think it's manageable. FYI, accuracy from both my 6.5 Creeds with the 142 LRAB is top-notch in the 2700-2800 range. 2700fps/142 grain bullet = right around 2300 ft-lbs of energy, so weigh that factor when you consider how much recoil her launcher will throw at her. Good bet you can get the accuracy at a lower vel, but now you've got to take a HARD look at what range is legit for the hunt. From experience, cow elk take just as much to kill humanely as do the bulls, and no lethality index of any sort can predict perfectly what it'll take for a clean kill. When working with young hunters I have always pushed a simple concept - wait for a clean shot at a range you KNOW you can handle. 400 yards is a nice distance, but if the shooter lacks the experience to go beyond 250 then you have a great opportunity to teach her about stalking! [/QUOTE]
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