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Bullet failure 130 grain nosler partition with 6.5 creedmoor
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<blockquote data-quote="44hunter45" data-source="post: 1498325" data-attributes="member: 102573"><p>I agree a newbie on a guided hunt should be carrying at least a 30. I started all my three sons on the 6.5 Swede here in Idaho and we stacked up the meat. Since this is the Long Range Hunting Forum I will hold my hat in my hand and say too often you can get a lot closer.</p><p></p><p>My longest witnessed Elk kill is 461 yards with a 264 WM. We used a highly frangible GameKing 140 BT. At that range it worked perfectly on a neck shot on this bedded cow. My son is a surgeon. This rig is all bipod and 30mm VX-3i 4.5-14X50 but it is nearing time for a new barrel. I am going to take it to a 1-8 26 inch on the next barrel. </p><p></p><p>My Swede now sports a 26 inch 1-7 Kreiger. I load nothing smaller than 140 grain in it and most of the time it packs 156 Norma Vulcan or 160 Hornady RN. It is currently getting re-stocked for my Granddaughter's debut in a couple of years. </p><p></p><p>I have played the 6.5 game for decades and I've never seen the need for all the newer 6.5s other than what the gun writers and the manufacturers have created. Having said that, if your 6.5 is under penetrating, something is wrong. Pondoro killed African Elephants with 160 RNs in a 6.5x54 Mannlicher. Think about that. Those bullets were running at around 2350 fps and brained elephants. </p><p></p><p>Here in North Idaho most elk are killed inside 200. Most of mine have been in timber inside 75. I've taken them with the 140 GameKing in 264WM and 6.5 Swede and with 180 Speer BT in .30-06. Neither of these are premiums but will kill well even when overdriven for their engineering. I've also used Partitions, Grand Slams, TBBCs, Swifts, Corelokts, GameKings, etc. Any cheap bullet will kill when placed well. The most expensive bullet will not kill when placed poorly. Remember that you need to understand the performance of your chosen bullet all the way down to about 1800 fps if you are going to poke at long ranges. Those conditions favor the more frangible bullets. </p><p></p><p>Here's what I've learned about elk. If your first bullet goes true it's easy. If your first bullet does not go true you better be prepared to pour in the lead. When an elk realizes its shot before it dies it can make your job very difficult. This is true no matter what rifle you are using.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="44hunter45, post: 1498325, member: 102573"] I agree a newbie on a guided hunt should be carrying at least a 30. I started all my three sons on the 6.5 Swede here in Idaho and we stacked up the meat. Since this is the Long Range Hunting Forum I will hold my hat in my hand and say too often you can get a lot closer. My longest witnessed Elk kill is 461 yards with a 264 WM. We used a highly frangible GameKing 140 BT. At that range it worked perfectly on a neck shot on this bedded cow. My son is a surgeon. This rig is all bipod and 30mm VX-3i 4.5-14X50 but it is nearing time for a new barrel. I am going to take it to a 1-8 26 inch on the next barrel. My Swede now sports a 26 inch 1-7 Kreiger. I load nothing smaller than 140 grain in it and most of the time it packs 156 Norma Vulcan or 160 Hornady RN. It is currently getting re-stocked for my Granddaughter's debut in a couple of years. I have played the 6.5 game for decades and I've never seen the need for all the newer 6.5s other than what the gun writers and the manufacturers have created. Having said that, if your 6.5 is under penetrating, something is wrong. Pondoro killed African Elephants with 160 RNs in a 6.5x54 Mannlicher. Think about that. Those bullets were running at around 2350 fps and brained elephants. Here in North Idaho most elk are killed inside 200. Most of mine have been in timber inside 75. I've taken them with the 140 GameKing in 264WM and 6.5 Swede and with 180 Speer BT in .30-06. Neither of these are premiums but will kill well even when overdriven for their engineering. I've also used Partitions, Grand Slams, TBBCs, Swifts, Corelokts, GameKings, etc. Any cheap bullet will kill when placed well. The most expensive bullet will not kill when placed poorly. Remember that you need to understand the performance of your chosen bullet all the way down to about 1800 fps if you are going to poke at long ranges. Those conditions favor the more frangible bullets. Here's what I've learned about elk. If your first bullet goes true it's easy. If your first bullet does not go true you better be prepared to pour in the lead. When an elk realizes its shot before it dies it can make your job very difficult. This is true no matter what rifle you are using. [/QUOTE]
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