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<blockquote data-quote="Darkker" data-source="post: 1280984" data-attributes="member: 81406"><p>Saving money is the part that bothers you with Hornady? I would have picked lying about the discontinued list a few years ago, and lying about it not being about filling a G contact, or the BS about melting tips which their own white pages show is crap, as a herring to redesign the rest of the match line-up ogives to match the 123 & 178 at a 50% markup, all while going to a mostly copper deposition form of jacketing; the vary same one Speer had been using in the gold dots for decades, that Hornady loved to poke fun of as junk... But hey, that's just me.</p><p></p><p>The AMP jacket system they use is a hybrid affair. Partial traditional cup, mostly deposition. So technically it is bonded, and has a interlock ring (not cannelure). If you look at the product page for them found here: <a href="http://m.hornady.com/store/ELD-X" target="_blank">Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Bullets :: Rifle :: Choose by Bullet Type :: ELD-X®</a></p><p>Within a sentence of each other they claim 50-60% weight at close range, and 85-90% at extended range. That is pretty typical of softer bullets. Ballistic tips do exactly that. Just gotta pick a side in the war.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't usually see those two differences put together in the same sentence <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>As I pointed out above, kinda need to pick your main goal for distance. There isn't a bullet that does everything the best. Tipped bullets open at lower Velocity, and tend to want to explode at high velocities. Bonded bullets, specifically the newer ones tend to not be the most accurate bullets out there.</p><p></p><p>With the exception of the new RDF match line, Nosler has always sandbagged their BC numbers. REALLY badly, including with the Accubond LR. So make sure you know your dope, rather than just plugging the published number in your calc.</p><p></p><p>All my elk and bear were killed with one of the first bonded bullets, Hot-Cors. Most bullet snobs will begin nashing their teeth, because "is not a real bonded bullet like my....", but yes it is. Maybe it's not filled with unicorn bones, and I heard the Pope may not recognize them as kosher; but they are very reliable.</p><p></p><p>I do hope you find something your rifle likes to shoot, let us know what you settle on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darkker, post: 1280984, member: 81406"] Saving money is the part that bothers you with Hornady? I would have picked lying about the discontinued list a few years ago, and lying about it not being about filling a G contact, or the BS about melting tips which their own white pages show is crap, as a herring to redesign the rest of the match line-up ogives to match the 123 & 178 at a 50% markup, all while going to a mostly copper deposition form of jacketing; the vary same one Speer had been using in the gold dots for decades, that Hornady loved to poke fun of as junk... But hey, that's just me. The AMP jacket system they use is a hybrid affair. Partial traditional cup, mostly deposition. So technically it is bonded, and has a interlock ring (not cannelure). If you look at the product page for them found here: [url=http://m.hornady.com/store/ELD-X]Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Bullets :: Rifle :: Choose by Bullet Type :: ELD-X®[/url] Within a sentence of each other they claim 50-60% weight at close range, and 85-90% at extended range. That is pretty typical of softer bullets. Ballistic tips do exactly that. Just gotta pick a side in the war. Don't usually see those two differences put together in the same sentence :D As I pointed out above, kinda need to pick your main goal for distance. There isn't a bullet that does everything the best. Tipped bullets open at lower Velocity, and tend to want to explode at high velocities. Bonded bullets, specifically the newer ones tend to not be the most accurate bullets out there. With the exception of the new RDF match line, Nosler has always sandbagged their BC numbers. REALLY badly, including with the Accubond LR. So make sure you know your dope, rather than just plugging the published number in your calc. All my elk and bear were killed with one of the first bonded bullets, Hot-Cors. Most bullet snobs will begin nashing their teeth, because "is not a real bonded bullet like my....", but yes it is. Maybe it's not filled with unicorn bones, and I heard the Pope may not recognize them as kosher; but they are very reliable. I do hope you find something your rifle likes to shoot, let us know what you settle on. [/QUOTE]
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