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Building a prs rifle, trying to determine cal, 6.5x47 lapua or 6.5 creedmoor
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<blockquote data-quote="sable tireur" data-source="post: 1588213" data-attributes="member: 27307"><p>That's true.</p><p></p><p>Except why would they be at the very top of this list unless the shooters have found that these cartridges have the performance the shooter requires? Besides, the top 3 already have top quality brass available for those who reload. Which calls into play the fact that those who have chosen the top three cartridges, reload in order to be able to shoot and win. </p><p></p><p>This is not to take anything away from the 6.5x47 Lapua cartridge at all. It is a superb cartridge for both bolt action and gas guns.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand the point you're trying to make, I've seen the same thing occur at top level National and International matches. Once in a very great while, in other words, not very **** often at all.</p><p></p><p>Not in any the parts of the country I shoot in and I cover most of it. Maybe once in a great while but most assuredly not with any regularity. This is an exaggeration since then by logic, the rest of us who want to be competitive would switch to the Savage and SWFA outfit.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Besides, the Production Class now covers those rifles and packages which stay at or under a certain dollar amount so they compete against each other and not against the fellows with more expensive gear. Pros, by the definition of that term, earn a part or most of their living by shooting AND performing. They most certainly are not going to stand by and let some one else out shoot them with lesser gear and still remain Pros. Personally I wouldn't bet against the Pros...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Another point to take into consideration with regard to brass is the cost of brass. It is necessary to consult the rules prior to a match to see if you can retrieve your own brass and when that is allowed. It varies with each match and the number of shooters vs the number of stages. High volume, fast pace matches may have you wait until the end of the day to find your brass and compete with all the others shooting a particular cartridge. Slower paced matches often will allow a minute or two for competitors to find their brass after the completion of a stage. The only reason to mention this is the cost of some brass. At 200 shots per match and $1.00 per case, it can get pretty expensive to lose all or even part of your brass. Be sure to conjure up some form of marking your brass in case you find yourself looking through a few thousand pieces of brass at the end of the day. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p>Last but not least, the top cartridges would not be at the top unless the shooters were properly prepared to have all their ammunition when and where they need it. Shooter plan and prepare. They do not leave anything to chance. So believing that you have to shoot a cartridge which can be sources at Walmart is fallacious. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Enjoy the Experience!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sable tireur, post: 1588213, member: 27307"] That's true. Except why would they be at the very top of this list unless the shooters have found that these cartridges have the performance the shooter requires? Besides, the top 3 already have top quality brass available for those who reload. Which calls into play the fact that those who have chosen the top three cartridges, reload in order to be able to shoot and win. This is not to take anything away from the 6.5x47 Lapua cartridge at all. It is a superb cartridge for both bolt action and gas guns. I understand the point you're trying to make, I've seen the same thing occur at top level National and International matches. Once in a very great while, in other words, not very **** often at all. Not in any the parts of the country I shoot in and I cover most of it. Maybe once in a great while but most assuredly not with any regularity. This is an exaggeration since then by logic, the rest of us who want to be competitive would switch to the Savage and SWFA outfit.;) Besides, the Production Class now covers those rifles and packages which stay at or under a certain dollar amount so they compete against each other and not against the fellows with more expensive gear. Pros, by the definition of that term, earn a part or most of their living by shooting AND performing. They most certainly are not going to stand by and let some one else out shoot them with lesser gear and still remain Pros. Personally I wouldn't bet against the Pros...;):) Another point to take into consideration with regard to brass is the cost of brass. It is necessary to consult the rules prior to a match to see if you can retrieve your own brass and when that is allowed. It varies with each match and the number of shooters vs the number of stages. High volume, fast pace matches may have you wait until the end of the day to find your brass and compete with all the others shooting a particular cartridge. Slower paced matches often will allow a minute or two for competitors to find their brass after the completion of a stage. The only reason to mention this is the cost of some brass. At 200 shots per match and $1.00 per case, it can get pretty expensive to lose all or even part of your brass. Be sure to conjure up some form of marking your brass in case you find yourself looking through a few thousand pieces of brass at the end of the day. :eek: Last but not least, the top cartridges would not be at the top unless the shooters were properly prepared to have all their ammunition when and where they need it. Shooter plan and prepare. They do not leave anything to chance. So believing that you have to shoot a cartridge which can be sources at Walmart is fallacious. ;) Enjoy the Experience! [/QUOTE]
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