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<blockquote data-quote="johnlittletree" data-source="post: 1450212" data-attributes="member: 105653"><p>Ya well do you think would have made it home alive from Vietnam had you worn hearing protection on patrols? Doubt it. You can not wear hearing protection all the time life just does not work that way. If you never did anything around machinery, guns, loud noises you still lose hearing as you age.</p><p></p><p>Why do you think the Army made hearing protection part of the uniform? Because they got tired of paying disability claims for hearing loss that is why!</p><p></p><p>Why do you think a lot of states have laws on the books that prevent people from wearing headphones when driving, operating heavy machinery, riding a bike or running? Because you can not hear things coming up on you from traffic to emergency sounds like sirens on a police car or fire truck or ambulance.</p><p></p><p>No one is going to go hunting 2-3 times a year for Bambi an elk and some caribou or bear and lose their hearing from that even if they did that for 40+ years. It is not just intensity of the sound but the duration and freq of exposure.</p><p></p><p>You can take an antibiotic and have it dimish your hearing. You can take glucocorticosteroids and lose your hearing. You can have an idiot on a motorcycle with drag pipes go by and have your hearing ringing for 3 days. Life has some risk associated with everything from sex to using butter and gravy on your food. </p><p></p><p>On the range or target shooting and plinking sure but out hunting not just no but heck no. You will not catch me hunting with anyone wearing hearing protection that is too much of a safety issue. You might as well blindfold them and then stand down range and let them spin ut the average personhbaround and take pot shots at you. If they are that neurotic about it while out hunting maybe they need to buy their meat at a store. It would be like trying to fly fish with hockey gloves on or operating a 1911 with hockey gloves on to make sure you do not get slide bite.</p><p></p><p>I was not going to mention this but human hearing is not at all linear and is very logarithmic like the Richter Scale. In fact DB are not at all linear either. On top of that the hear and the brain does not process sound in anything remotely logical or accurate. Volume, pitch, and timbre are intertwined a high pitch sound at 108db will sound much louder to a human than a low freq. at that same 108db. If you take the exact same note and vary the volume it will appear to the listener as if the freq. is changing when in reality only the volume has changed. We have large notches in our hearing were some freq. have a HUGE bump in our ability to perceive them.</p><p></p><p>Musicians and loudspeaker designers get this but few other's do. We hear more with our brain than we do with the ear itself. </p><p></p><p>Another thing most people do not know is that your peripheral eyesight is a function of the brain not the eye where a disease is not involved. The decline that most see in this with age can be restored with very specific brain training tool. It is not theory it has been repeatedly demonstrated. 99% of people have no clue.</p><p></p><p>In the case of sound redirecting, sound or interference of any kind can and does have a huge effect. Splitting up part of the sound spectrum and redirecting parts of the full spectrum back at the shooter and bystanders will alter the freq's people hear and how they perceive the sound itself. Just like the duration changes what we think we hear as well. Similar things are seen in recoil the duration of the power pulse and how quickly it builds to peak force have a greater impact on perception than the actual amount of peak force generated.</p><p></p><p>Life is never as simple as people want to make it. If something seems simple than it is usually a lie, half-truth or just completely wrong on every level! Sadly people like simple even if it is 100% wrong if they have something to parrot back when someone asks they are normally happy as a lark. That is why ignorance is bliss and really 70% of the population do not want the truth or want any understanding lies and ignorance works better for them! If you dig any deeper than superficially in psychology, sociology, group dynamic, advertising all of this is very clear and it is used on the population daily. Most people think they understand their senses but really most are clueless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnlittletree, post: 1450212, member: 105653"] Ya well do you think would have made it home alive from Vietnam had you worn hearing protection on patrols? Doubt it. You can not wear hearing protection all the time life just does not work that way. If you never did anything around machinery, guns, loud noises you still lose hearing as you age. Why do you think the Army made hearing protection part of the uniform? Because they got tired of paying disability claims for hearing loss that is why! Why do you think a lot of states have laws on the books that prevent people from wearing headphones when driving, operating heavy machinery, riding a bike or running? Because you can not hear things coming up on you from traffic to emergency sounds like sirens on a police car or fire truck or ambulance. No one is going to go hunting 2-3 times a year for Bambi an elk and some caribou or bear and lose their hearing from that even if they did that for 40+ years. It is not just intensity of the sound but the duration and freq of exposure. You can take an antibiotic and have it dimish your hearing. You can take glucocorticosteroids and lose your hearing. You can have an idiot on a motorcycle with drag pipes go by and have your hearing ringing for 3 days. Life has some risk associated with everything from sex to using butter and gravy on your food. On the range or target shooting and plinking sure but out hunting not just no but heck no. You will not catch me hunting with anyone wearing hearing protection that is too much of a safety issue. You might as well blindfold them and then stand down range and let them spin ut the average personhbaround and take pot shots at you. If they are that neurotic about it while out hunting maybe they need to buy their meat at a store. It would be like trying to fly fish with hockey gloves on or operating a 1911 with hockey gloves on to make sure you do not get slide bite. I was not going to mention this but human hearing is not at all linear and is very logarithmic like the Richter Scale. In fact DB are not at all linear either. On top of that the hear and the brain does not process sound in anything remotely logical or accurate. Volume, pitch, and timbre are intertwined a high pitch sound at 108db will sound much louder to a human than a low freq. at that same 108db. If you take the exact same note and vary the volume it will appear to the listener as if the freq. is changing when in reality only the volume has changed. We have large notches in our hearing were some freq. have a HUGE bump in our ability to perceive them. Musicians and loudspeaker designers get this but few other's do. We hear more with our brain than we do with the ear itself. Another thing most people do not know is that your peripheral eyesight is a function of the brain not the eye where a disease is not involved. The decline that most see in this with age can be restored with very specific brain training tool. It is not theory it has been repeatedly demonstrated. 99% of people have no clue. In the case of sound redirecting, sound or interference of any kind can and does have a huge effect. Splitting up part of the sound spectrum and redirecting parts of the full spectrum back at the shooter and bystanders will alter the freq's people hear and how they perceive the sound itself. Just like the duration changes what we think we hear as well. Similar things are seen in recoil the duration of the power pulse and how quickly it builds to peak force have a greater impact on perception than the actual amount of peak force generated. Life is never as simple as people want to make it. If something seems simple than it is usually a lie, half-truth or just completely wrong on every level! Sadly people like simple even if it is 100% wrong if they have something to parrot back when someone asks they are normally happy as a lark. That is why ignorance is bliss and really 70% of the population do not want the truth or want any understanding lies and ignorance works better for them! If you dig any deeper than superficially in psychology, sociology, group dynamic, advertising all of this is very clear and it is used on the population daily. Most people think they understand their senses but really most are clueless. [/QUOTE]
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