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<blockquote data-quote="Greg Culpepper" data-source="post: 81579" data-attributes="member: 4763"><p>Big Bore, </p><p></p><p>I'm confused. </p><p></p><p>You say that getting ammonia into oil is a myth and would be worthy of the Nobel and then you say ammonia miscible oil is nothing new. Which is it? Is "ammonia oil" a myth or not? You say that ammonia is hygroscopic (thanks for the help with my spelling) but ammonia is a gas, when dissolved in water (ammonium hydroxide) it wants to leave, evaporate, not combine. You say that the point is moot, that ammonia is the problem not water. Try leaving an unbuffered copper remover or aqua ammonia in a gun barrel (stainless or chrome moly) for an hour and check the color of the patch that follows. That brown stuff is rust my friend. What credentials does F&amp;S have? Perhaps more than an anonomous guy on an internet chat board that has no experience with the product he is critiquing. Out of my personal experience, I don't know a single shooter that bubbles oxygen up through rifle bore. But I've got a bore scope and more than a few targets that, in combination with the results of many others, lead me to conclude that BMG 50 is a breakthrough product for rifle bore cleaning. Heck, I knew it was a breakthrough with the first patch! Our results speak. You on the other hand seem to have no exposure to the product. Talk about authority fallacy! I've lost my desire to persuade you of anything, Big bore, but I wish that you wouldn't accuse me of perpetrating a "myth" about gun cleaning and dissuade other folks from trying a breakthrough product that can advance their shooting when you have no experience with it and know nothing about it.</p><p></p><p>Greg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg Culpepper, post: 81579, member: 4763"] Big Bore, I'm confused. You say that getting ammonia into oil is a myth and would be worthy of the Nobel and then you say ammonia miscible oil is nothing new. Which is it? Is "ammonia oil" a myth or not? You say that ammonia is hygroscopic (thanks for the help with my spelling) but ammonia is a gas, when dissolved in water (ammonium hydroxide) it wants to leave, evaporate, not combine. You say that the point is moot, that ammonia is the problem not water. Try leaving an unbuffered copper remover or aqua ammonia in a gun barrel (stainless or chrome moly) for an hour and check the color of the patch that follows. That brown stuff is rust my friend. What credentials does F&S have? Perhaps more than an anonomous guy on an internet chat board that has no experience with the product he is critiquing. Out of my personal experience, I don't know a single shooter that bubbles oxygen up through rifle bore. But I've got a bore scope and more than a few targets that, in combination with the results of many others, lead me to conclude that BMG 50 is a breakthrough product for rifle bore cleaning. Heck, I knew it was a breakthrough with the first patch! Our results speak. You on the other hand seem to have no exposure to the product. Talk about authority fallacy! I've lost my desire to persuade you of anything, Big bore, but I wish that you wouldn't accuse me of perpetrating a "myth" about gun cleaning and dissuade other folks from trying a breakthrough product that can advance their shooting when you have no experience with it and know nothing about it. Greg [/QUOTE]
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