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<blockquote data-quote="ricka0" data-source="post: 81465" data-attributes="member: 3086"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p> <font color="purple"> <strong>always funny when the ammonia topic comes back around. Used to be considered evil and any barrel touching it would melt or blow up. Ain't so.</strong> </font> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p>Actually that has never been established. When GG said his pal cleaned his 50 with Ammonia it never shoot good after, I scoffed. Cleaning with high Baume Ammonia is typical in the 50 community. </p><p>I designed a test to put the Ammonia debate to rest. Running my design by a couple chemists (one a famous Ammoniacal chemist) quickly exposed the inconclusiveness of my test - and every test I've read so far. The truth is no body really knows. Several good metallurgists claim strong Ammonia (22+ degrees Baume) will degrade your barrel. All I can get the chemists to say is [ QUOTE ]</p><p> <font color="red"> <strong>Do the tests</strong> </font> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ] </p><p>Unless you have information I and these chemists have been unable to find, I'd reserve comments. </p><p> [ QUOTE ]</p><p> <font color="purple"> <strong>Since the posts show a preference to the stronger ammonia cleaner, I am surprised they did not use Barnes CR10. Have not come across a commercial product that cleans more aggressively.</strong> </font> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ] </p><p></p><p>CR10 may be strong for commercial barrel cleaners, but it's considered horse urine (which contains more ammonia than human urine) compared to Diazo solution.</p><p></p><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p> <font color="purple"> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Personally, I use janitorial grade ammonia. You have to go to a commercial cleaning supply company to buy. This stuff is strong - outside only!!!!! </strong> </font> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p></p><p>The Janitorial Ammonia I have is only 10%, weaker than CR10 – but you are correct on using in a well ventilated area.</p><p></p><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p> <font color="purple"> <strong>A gallon cost me $20 Cdn and will last several lifetimes. </strong> </font> </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p></p><p>Are you sure it's that high? I pay that much for 26 degree Baume Ammonia ( Ammonia concentration is measured by specific density (degrees Baume). The Janitorial stuff is about $8/gallon. I get used Diazo fluid which my Baume gage reads at 22+ degrees Baume for free. The Printer shops actually want to pay me to take it, but I don't want homeland security alerted I'm making money on chemicals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ricka0, post: 81465, member: 3086"] [ QUOTE ] <font color="purple"> [b]always funny when the ammonia topic comes back around. Used to be considered evil and any barrel touching it would melt or blow up. Ain't so.[/b] </font> [/ QUOTE ] Actually that has never been established. When GG said his pal cleaned his 50 with Ammonia it never shoot good after, I scoffed. Cleaning with high Baume Ammonia is typical in the 50 community. I designed a test to put the Ammonia debate to rest. Running my design by a couple chemists (one a famous Ammoniacal chemist) quickly exposed the inconclusiveness of my test - and every test I've read so far. The truth is no body really knows. Several good metallurgists claim strong Ammonia (22+ degrees Baume) will degrade your barrel. All I can get the chemists to say is [ QUOTE ] <font color="red"> [b]Do the tests[/b] </font> [/ QUOTE ] Unless you have information I and these chemists have been unable to find, I'd reserve comments. [ QUOTE ] <font color="purple"> [b]Since the posts show a preference to the stronger ammonia cleaner, I am surprised they did not use Barnes CR10. Have not come across a commercial product that cleans more aggressively.[/b] </font> [/ QUOTE ] CR10 may be strong for commercial barrel cleaners, but it's considered horse urine (which contains more ammonia than human urine) compared to Diazo solution. [ QUOTE ] <font color="purple"> [b] Personally, I use janitorial grade ammonia. You have to go to a commercial cleaning supply company to buy. This stuff is strong - outside only!!!!! [/b] </font> [/ QUOTE ] The Janitorial Ammonia I have is only 10%, weaker than CR10 – but you are correct on using in a well ventilated area. [ QUOTE ] <font color="purple"> [b]A gallon cost me $20 Cdn and will last several lifetimes. [/b] </font> [/ QUOTE ] Are you sure it’s that high? I pay that much for 26 degree Baume Ammonia ( Ammonia concentration is measured by specific density (degrees Baume). The Janitorial stuff is about $8/gallon. I get used Diazo fluid which my Baume gage reads at 22+ degrees Baume for free. The Printer shops actually want to pay me to take it, but I don’t want homeland security alerted I’m making money on chemicals. [/QUOTE]
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