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Blaser r93 - is it accurate. Did it deserve the "Rifle of the Century"
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<blockquote data-quote="ChrisF" data-source="post: 646539" data-attributes="member: 1453"><p><strong>Re: Blaser r93 - is it accurate. Did it deserve the "Rifle of the Century"</strong></p><p></p><p>Its funny you donot address any of the points I actually brought up , and go off on a rant about boats planes & other crap .</p><p></p><p>Rifle of the Century , NO not in my World .</p><p></p><p>I pointed to the fact , that you holding up the Aussies adoptaion of the Blaser in 338LM as a validation of the worth of the design , and I said one single use does not mean thant much , as people do make mis , so do countries , opps , and by the M60 , other than the USA , I think Aussie was the ONLY other country to adopt ( and PAY for IT ) this flawed design , virtually all other users did not buy them , they where basically given them under US aide .</p><p></p><p>We in NZ , adopted the excellent British made GPMG which is basically the world famous MAG58 .</p><p></p><p>Now even the US & Aussie run MAG58s over the M60 series GPMG .</p><p></p><p>In reguards to Armies world wide that use the Blaser in 338LM , the list I think would be very small , most seem to use AI or Sako in n the 338LM calibre , and thats a FACT , Opps , you donot like facts do you .</p><p></p><p>My understanding of the Blaser Aussie Army issue is it was a quick purchase off the self ,and as such , I donot think any actual prooper trials where run .</p><p>In actual Trials done in 97-98 in Aussie , where they had more than one rifle under consideration , they adopted the AWF in 308 from AI , and the AW50 in 50BMG as well .</p><p></p><p></p><p>I see the Blaser as the Fosters of rifles , ie a triumph in marketing over substance , in simple terms a big fantastic marketing campaign & an The Brits must remember the Fosters Beer ads , for those unfimialr , Fosters is a Lager beer , and not a good one ,</p><p></p><p>Most people I know who have had a Blaser93 have sold them and moved on to better systems , one guy used a 93 Tac model for a while in comps , but sold and uses , Barnard & Nesika etc type actions now .</p><p></p><p>I donot hate all Blaser products , I liked the 84 action , but not this collet bolt head type , from what I gathered when I was interested in the Tac version ( I did some research & chatted to 2 good gunsmiths about the system , and on their veiws , decided I did not want one ) , the failling of the system , usually happens went a primer leaks or is pierched , the hot gasses vent down the firing pin hole and destory the washer thats holds/cams the locking splines closed .</p><p></p><p>This washer on std models was a type of plastic back then , and the company must have known it was an issue , as the bigger 338LM model of the same time period used a steel washer .</p><p></p><p>Also the std saddle type mounts donot seem to holdup or retain a zero that well , as a German police unit returned their Blaser Tacs 3 times due to not retaining their zeros , in the end they got rid of them , the pitcanny rail on the newer Tac models holds up better I think .</p><p></p><p>AN I believe their are much better rifles out their than the Blaser 93 , thats why I have AIs , Sakos , Parker Hales , Tikkas , Surgeons , Badgers , PGW etc .</p><p></p><p>And YEAP , In my world it is BLASER FREE .</p><p></p><p>Later Chris</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ChrisF, post: 646539, member: 1453"] [b]Re: Blaser r93 - is it accurate. Did it deserve the "Rifle of the Century"[/b] Its funny you donot address any of the points I actually brought up , and go off on a rant about boats planes & other crap . Rifle of the Century , NO not in my World . I pointed to the fact , that you holding up the Aussies adoptaion of the Blaser in 338LM as a validation of the worth of the design , and I said one single use does not mean thant much , as people do make mis , so do countries , opps , and by the M60 , other than the USA , I think Aussie was the ONLY other country to adopt ( and PAY for IT ) this flawed design , virtually all other users did not buy them , they where basically given them under US aide . We in NZ , adopted the excellent British made GPMG which is basically the world famous MAG58 . Now even the US & Aussie run MAG58s over the M60 series GPMG . In reguards to Armies world wide that use the Blaser in 338LM , the list I think would be very small , most seem to use AI or Sako in n the 338LM calibre , and thats a FACT , Opps , you donot like facts do you . My understanding of the Blaser Aussie Army issue is it was a quick purchase off the self ,and as such , I donot think any actual prooper trials where run . In actual Trials done in 97-98 in Aussie , where they had more than one rifle under consideration , they adopted the AWF in 308 from AI , and the AW50 in 50BMG as well . I see the Blaser as the Fosters of rifles , ie a triumph in marketing over substance , in simple terms a big fantastic marketing campaign & an The Brits must remember the Fosters Beer ads , for those unfimialr , Fosters is a Lager beer , and not a good one , Most people I know who have had a Blaser93 have sold them and moved on to better systems , one guy used a 93 Tac model for a while in comps , but sold and uses , Barnard & Nesika etc type actions now . I donot hate all Blaser products , I liked the 84 action , but not this collet bolt head type , from what I gathered when I was interested in the Tac version ( I did some research & chatted to 2 good gunsmiths about the system , and on their veiws , decided I did not want one ) , the failling of the system , usually happens went a primer leaks or is pierched , the hot gasses vent down the firing pin hole and destory the washer thats holds/cams the locking splines closed . This washer on std models was a type of plastic back then , and the company must have known it was an issue , as the bigger 338LM model of the same time period used a steel washer . Also the std saddle type mounts donot seem to holdup or retain a zero that well , as a German police unit returned their Blaser Tacs 3 times due to not retaining their zeros , in the end they got rid of them , the pitcanny rail on the newer Tac models holds up better I think . AN I believe their are much better rifles out their than the Blaser 93 , thats why I have AIs , Sakos , Parker Hales , Tikkas , Surgeons , Badgers , PGW etc . And YEAP , In my world it is BLASER FREE . Later Chris [/QUOTE]
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