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<blockquote data-quote="goodgrouper" data-source="post: 218251" data-attributes="member: 2852"><p><strong>Rant: part two</strong></p><p></p><p>Well, at the risk of offending more black gun enthusiasts, I thought I would type up the rant: part two.</p><p></p><p>Four days after the "incident", I'm at the same range with the same guns on a non-public day. I was there most of the morning and afternoon and I only had one visitor all day. And guess who it was, a black gun shooter! Luckily, I had set all my gear up on the farthest left bench "just in case" so flying brass was not going to be a problem. But there was another problem. This particular shooter seemed to posess the other all too common problem some of these types have. A lack of awareness as to where their bullets go AFTER they hit their target. </p><p>You see, I had four rather expensive windflags set up (all out of the line of fire of course on the left side of the range) that are very obvious and easy to see. I know this shooter saw them as he asked what they were and why I use them. After a brief explanation of them, this shooter began to get setup to shoot his gun. </p><p>Well, he walked out to 25 yards (on the 100 yard RIFLE range) and set up a glass bottle on top of the cement target holder in the ground. Then he walked back to the bench and popped in a 30 round magazine and began to spray the ground in front of us. Now, I don't think our range was designed for glass targets, and I'm pretty sure that craters in the concrete target holders will not go over well with the city who owns and built the range. And I'm absolutely certain that I did not enjoy my windflags getting peppered with richocets! After his little "burst" of ammo, I told him that what he just did probably wasn't very good. He asked, "why". He seemed to be totally oblivious to the fact that bullets damage things and go downrange on unintended trajectories after coming in contact with the ground. Well, after I tought this guy a little about proper range etiquette and terminal ballistics, he asked some other questions that showed me by their vary nature that he really had no idea what he was doing. He bought this rifle 'cause it was "cool" and proceeded to shoot it before learning anything about it like a 16 year old girl comprehends mechanical aspects of the car she's driving.</p><p>Was it a coincidence that this shooter's first gun was an AR15 and so oblivious as to the damage he was causing? Perhaps. But why then did I guess something was going to go wrong that day as soon as I saw him pull out a black gun? I'm not psychic. I just made an educated guess. Did I pre-judge him? You bet. Is is unfair? Maybe. But it is something everyone does. If your walking down a dark alley at night and you see a tatted up fella in black leather and a whiskey bottle in one hand, you don't think, "gee, there's a nice guy who I should set up with my sister". You put one hand on your gun or pepper spray and walk the other way without making eye contact.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I know those of you who are now linked over from the black gun forums are really getting boiled and are probably forgetting about the glass bottle and the concrete hits and just cussing me for having wind flags out downrange. Well, this is MY game. I use windflags. And they have never been hit by bolt gun shooters. Ever. Coincidence? Maybe. But one thing is for sure. A 100 yard rifle range is built with the target frames 3 to 6 feet above the ground for a reason. That is the intended line of fire for centerfire rifles. If you want to shoot the ground at less than that yardage, you should go over to the handgun range or rimfire range or run the risk of damaging property that doesn't belong to you and having to pay for it. If there are no other ranges, then you should be aware of your line of fire and perhaps set up a short range target that is at least as high off the ground as the bench is. Had this fella done that, he would have been in compliance with all the range rules.</p><p></p><p>Before I end this post, I would like to admit that this shooter was not a bad guy. He was actually quite personable and polite. He was a stand up person. He was just doing what he had learned from his buddies or saw in movies. It can happen to any kind of shooter. My point is that it just seems to happen in the semi-auto club more than others. But he is now a safer shooter and more aware of his bullets and possibly even his brass!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodgrouper, post: 218251, member: 2852"] [b]Rant: part two[/b] Well, at the risk of offending more black gun enthusiasts, I thought I would type up the rant: part two. Four days after the "incident", I'm at the same range with the same guns on a non-public day. I was there most of the morning and afternoon and I only had one visitor all day. And guess who it was, a black gun shooter! Luckily, I had set all my gear up on the farthest left bench "just in case" so flying brass was not going to be a problem. But there was another problem. This particular shooter seemed to posess the other all too common problem some of these types have. A lack of awareness as to where their bullets go AFTER they hit their target. You see, I had four rather expensive windflags set up (all out of the line of fire of course on the left side of the range) that are very obvious and easy to see. I know this shooter saw them as he asked what they were and why I use them. After a brief explanation of them, this shooter began to get setup to shoot his gun. Well, he walked out to 25 yards (on the 100 yard RIFLE range) and set up a glass bottle on top of the cement target holder in the ground. Then he walked back to the bench and popped in a 30 round magazine and began to spray the ground in front of us. Now, I don't think our range was designed for glass targets, and I'm pretty sure that craters in the concrete target holders will not go over well with the city who owns and built the range. And I'm absolutely certain that I did not enjoy my windflags getting peppered with richocets! After his little "burst" of ammo, I told him that what he just did probably wasn't very good. He asked, "why". He seemed to be totally oblivious to the fact that bullets damage things and go downrange on unintended trajectories after coming in contact with the ground. Well, after I tought this guy a little about proper range etiquette and terminal ballistics, he asked some other questions that showed me by their vary nature that he really had no idea what he was doing. He bought this rifle 'cause it was "cool" and proceeded to shoot it before learning anything about it like a 16 year old girl comprehends mechanical aspects of the car she's driving. Was it a coincidence that this shooter's first gun was an AR15 and so oblivious as to the damage he was causing? Perhaps. But why then did I guess something was going to go wrong that day as soon as I saw him pull out a black gun? I'm not psychic. I just made an educated guess. Did I pre-judge him? You bet. Is is unfair? Maybe. But it is something everyone does. If your walking down a dark alley at night and you see a tatted up fella in black leather and a whiskey bottle in one hand, you don't think, "gee, there's a nice guy who I should set up with my sister". You put one hand on your gun or pepper spray and walk the other way without making eye contact. Now I know those of you who are now linked over from the black gun forums are really getting boiled and are probably forgetting about the glass bottle and the concrete hits and just cussing me for having wind flags out downrange. Well, this is MY game. I use windflags. And they have never been hit by bolt gun shooters. Ever. Coincidence? Maybe. But one thing is for sure. A 100 yard rifle range is built with the target frames 3 to 6 feet above the ground for a reason. That is the intended line of fire for centerfire rifles. If you want to shoot the ground at less than that yardage, you should go over to the handgun range or rimfire range or run the risk of damaging property that doesn't belong to you and having to pay for it. If there are no other ranges, then you should be aware of your line of fire and perhaps set up a short range target that is at least as high off the ground as the bench is. Had this fella done that, he would have been in compliance with all the range rules. Before I end this post, I would like to admit that this shooter was not a bad guy. He was actually quite personable and polite. He was a stand up person. He was just doing what he had learned from his buddies or saw in movies. It can happen to any kind of shooter. My point is that it just seems to happen in the semi-auto club more than others. But he is now a safer shooter and more aware of his bullets and possibly even his brass! [/QUOTE]
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