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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 171752" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Joe,</p><p> </p><p>Had we know that barrel would come in as heavy as it did, I would have NEVER recommended it or the Lawton M8000. Being only 1/2 lb lighter then my all steel "Allen32" custom contour all steel barrels from Lilja, there really isn't much difference and I know we have both been disappointed about that.</p><p> </p><p>I was expecting the barrel to come in a solid 2 lbs lighter then my all steel barrels which would put us right on the mark we wanted.</p><p> </p><p>Again, had I known how heavy this barrel was going to be, I would have recommended my "LightweightAllen32" custom contour along with a BAT Model M single shot receiver(1.55" dia), a McMillan A-5 light fill stock and we would have easily made weight with a bipod even.</p><p> </p><p>From all my research, I was amazed when that ABS barrel arrived as heavy as it was.</p><p> </p><p>That said, I can pass on that I did have a customer want to use a Lilja barrel blank to have an ABS barrel made. ABS told me to send them a #2 Dakota contour from Lilja and they would use that for the barrel.</p><p> </p><p>When the barrel got in, it was only 1/4 lb lighter then an all steel #5, fluted all steel Lilja. Again, I was amazed at the difference between the regular ABS barrel and the Lilja based ABS barrel. I called about this and they told me it was because they simply wrap the Lilja barrel as it comes and that the Rock barrel blank is dramatically lighter to begin with.</p><p> </p><p>I believe this is the same thing that happened with your 338 barrel, they are just buying light contour barrels from this other maker and wrapping them. Does very little for dropping weight.</p><p> </p><p>Again, sorry for the trouble, had I know what we would be getting I would have recommended a dramatically different game plan for your project.</p><p> </p><p>As far as brass, anyone using a 408 CT or wildcat based off that case is in the same boat. I have been working hard to get my own brass up and running so when it gets here and proven, I plan on keeping a large supply instock for my customers. Just have to get to that point. Getting new cases made takes time.</p><p> </p><p>I would agree, this has been very frustrating, it seems no one really cares about deadlines and meeting them. Unfortunately, that means I miss mydeadlines as well but the buck stops with me and I apologize for the trouble and delays and frustrations you are having.</p><p> </p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 171752, member: 10"] Joe, Had we know that barrel would come in as heavy as it did, I would have NEVER recommended it or the Lawton M8000. Being only 1/2 lb lighter then my all steel "Allen32" custom contour all steel barrels from Lilja, there really isn't much difference and I know we have both been disappointed about that. I was expecting the barrel to come in a solid 2 lbs lighter then my all steel barrels which would put us right on the mark we wanted. Again, had I known how heavy this barrel was going to be, I would have recommended my "LightweightAllen32" custom contour along with a BAT Model M single shot receiver(1.55" dia), a McMillan A-5 light fill stock and we would have easily made weight with a bipod even. From all my research, I was amazed when that ABS barrel arrived as heavy as it was. That said, I can pass on that I did have a customer want to use a Lilja barrel blank to have an ABS barrel made. ABS told me to send them a #2 Dakota contour from Lilja and they would use that for the barrel. When the barrel got in, it was only 1/4 lb lighter then an all steel #5, fluted all steel Lilja. Again, I was amazed at the difference between the regular ABS barrel and the Lilja based ABS barrel. I called about this and they told me it was because they simply wrap the Lilja barrel as it comes and that the Rock barrel blank is dramatically lighter to begin with. I believe this is the same thing that happened with your 338 barrel, they are just buying light contour barrels from this other maker and wrapping them. Does very little for dropping weight. Again, sorry for the trouble, had I know what we would be getting I would have recommended a dramatically different game plan for your project. As far as brass, anyone using a 408 CT or wildcat based off that case is in the same boat. I have been working hard to get my own brass up and running so when it gets here and proven, I plan on keeping a large supply instock for my customers. Just have to get to that point. Getting new cases made takes time. I would agree, this has been very frustrating, it seems no one really cares about deadlines and meeting them. Unfortunately, that means I miss mydeadlines as well but the buck stops with me and I apologize for the trouble and delays and frustrations you are having. Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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