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<blockquote data-quote="7mmRHB" data-source="post: 62443" data-attributes="member: 3584"><p>4kedhorn,</p><p>This is goodgrouper, I am just logged in over at 7mmrhb's house and we were discussing the problem that we found with the altitude compensation, and we got on to LRH and saw that you hit the nail on the head! In your earlier post, you said that what you thought I was saying was indeed exactly what I have been trying so badly to explain all along.</p><p>The difference in drop for the varying altitudes must show the adjusted zero, and not keep it a constant zero. The zero as it is referred to, means absolutely nothing to a knob cranker who has just sighted in his gun at home, and now drives up to 10,000 feet and has a rockchuck staring at him from 1000 yards out. He wants to just crank in his MOA for the yardage off of a CORRECTED program and dump the chuck. He does not want to check to make sure his gun is still the blasted 3" high at 100 yards! WE NEED A PROGRAM THAT WILL ADJUST YOUR WHOLE TRAJECTORY (including your zero) FOR ALTITUDE CHANGES AND ANGLE SHOOTING ALL AT ONCE, AND ALL ON THE SAME PAGE!</p><p></p><p>We are just two dumb idiots (me and 7mmrhb) but we can see that all these fancy programs have this one HUGE flaw. We see that you need to be able to run a drop chart for someone at a given altitude that is different from the one that you sighted the gun in at, and have it be adjusted for that person so that he can just crank in the new MOA and dump his deer without us there.</p><p></p><p>I am so glad that you and JBM understand what I've been trying to say all along. I guess I just worded it badly so it was hard to understand, but now that we're all on the same page and have visualized the problem, maybe we can come up with a new program and format for knob cranking hunters like us to take afield. The advantage of a program like this (besides what has already been said) is that one could enter in hundreds of different elevations in the field, and it would be displayed instantly on the first page with corrected trajecories for each altitude one chooses to shoot at. This of course would be ideal for the hunter who has a pocket pc, but the ability to make lots of different drop charts at your home computer would be greatly accelerated so that you wouldn't have to custom build every drop chart for every altitude, thus making it very simple to make charts for hunters who don't know exactly what elevation they are going to be at when MR. Buck jumps out. You could crank out charts very rapidly for altitudes from 0 to 10,000 feet, and know that the MOA has been re-adjusted for each increase of altitude.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is getting late, so I will explain all of my points of my ULTIMATE PROGRAM tomorrow for those of you who haven't played around with all those different programs I mentioned. Maybe, if I clear up all those points, someone here can develop the program. Your first two sales will be right here! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="7mmRHB, post: 62443, member: 3584"] 4kedhorn, This is goodgrouper, I am just logged in over at 7mmrhb's house and we were discussing the problem that we found with the altitude compensation, and we got on to LRH and saw that you hit the nail on the head! In your earlier post, you said that what you thought I was saying was indeed exactly what I have been trying so badly to explain all along. The difference in drop for the varying altitudes must show the adjusted zero, and not keep it a constant zero. The zero as it is referred to, means absolutely nothing to a knob cranker who has just sighted in his gun at home, and now drives up to 10,000 feet and has a rockchuck staring at him from 1000 yards out. He wants to just crank in his MOA for the yardage off of a CORRECTED program and dump the chuck. He does not want to check to make sure his gun is still the blasted 3" high at 100 yards! WE NEED A PROGRAM THAT WILL ADJUST YOUR WHOLE TRAJECTORY (including your zero) FOR ALTITUDE CHANGES AND ANGLE SHOOTING ALL AT ONCE, AND ALL ON THE SAME PAGE! We are just two dumb idiots (me and 7mmrhb) but we can see that all these fancy programs have this one HUGE flaw. We see that you need to be able to run a drop chart for someone at a given altitude that is different from the one that you sighted the gun in at, and have it be adjusted for that person so that he can just crank in the new MOA and dump his deer without us there. I am so glad that you and JBM understand what I've been trying to say all along. I guess I just worded it badly so it was hard to understand, but now that we're all on the same page and have visualized the problem, maybe we can come up with a new program and format for knob cranking hunters like us to take afield. The advantage of a program like this (besides what has already been said) is that one could enter in hundreds of different elevations in the field, and it would be displayed instantly on the first page with corrected trajecories for each altitude one chooses to shoot at. This of course would be ideal for the hunter who has a pocket pc, but the ability to make lots of different drop charts at your home computer would be greatly accelerated so that you wouldn't have to custom build every drop chart for every altitude, thus making it very simple to make charts for hunters who don't know exactly what elevation they are going to be at when MR. Buck jumps out. You could crank out charts very rapidly for altitudes from 0 to 10,000 feet, and know that the MOA has been re-adjusted for each increase of altitude. It is getting late, so I will explain all of my points of my ULTIMATE PROGRAM tomorrow for those of you who haven't played around with all those different programs I mentioned. Maybe, if I clear up all those points, someone here can develop the program. Your first two sales will be right here! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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